Wladimir Klitschko was never in the ring with a fighter like AJ

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  1. Keith-Joshua

    Keith-Joshua New Member Full Member

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    Wladimir's best wins are Pulev , Povetkin , Haye , Chagaev , Peter and Byrd.

    All of them were smaller than him , the average height of them is 6 ft 2.
    The average reach is 76 inches.

    Anthony Joshua is 6 ft. 6 and has a reach of 82 inches.

    The only time where Wlad was in the ring with a taller fighter than him who was
    actually good , was in the fight with Tyson Fury and he lost.

    I know that AJ is not comparable to Fury but it is safe to say that Wlad's biggest
    strength against his best opponents , was his height and reach advantage.

    He doesn't have this advantage in the fight against AJ and he was never in the ring
    with someone who had similar handspeed and power at similar height.

    We all know that Wladimir Klitschko hasn't the best chin and he struggled in the
    past with smaller punchers like Brewster , Sanders and Peter.

    Also Wladimir is not the fighter he was against Haye or Pulev , he is 41 years old
    and not in his prime anymore.

    Anthony Joshua never faced an opponent like Wladimir , but otherwise Klitschko
    never faced an opponent like AJ.

    For both of them , it will be a new experience.
     
  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    How exactly would you describe 'a fighter like AJ'? What type of boxer do you think he is?
     
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  3. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wladimir's fought tall, long-reached fighters before.
    Jameel McCline, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, Mariusz Wach.

    AJ has faster hands than all of those, punches more accurately. But it's still hard to say how good he is over all. The closest thing he had to a decent fight was Dillian Whyte, a British-level novice match.
     
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  4. Keith-Joshua

    Keith-Joshua New Member Full Member

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    I would classify AJ as mostly a slugger with boxer elements , but not quite a boxer-puncher , he also has elements
    of a pressure fighter , especially in the first 4 or 5 rounds.

    His strengths are his handspeed , power and overall athleticism , his weaknesses are his head movement
    and his defense needs to progress a little bit , his chin is suspect as well.

    He is difficult to classify at the moment , because he destroyed his most opponents in a couple of rounds.

    I think we need to see more of him to make a definite statement about his fighting style.

    But i can't think of an opponent from Wlad , who resembles him.
     
  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    This is the problem for me, I really struggle to define what sort of fighter AJ will be when it comes down to a difficult fight. He boxed Whyte for a bit during their fight but didn't show a particularly good jab or foot movement. His hand speed is good but I must admit I don't think it's as lightning as we're being led to believe.
     
  6. Robney

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    Wlad has faced almost every style in the book. It's Joshua who never faced the style and level of Wlad, and that's why so many believe Wlad will win despite his age, inactivity and looking dreadful in his last fight.
     
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  7. Keith-Joshua

    Keith-Joshua New Member Full Member

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    His handspeed is not lightning but especially for a fighter with his height and 250 pounds , he is unusually fast.
    His jab is decent but not Klitschko level and his footwork is not that bad compared to other fighters with his
    physique.
    I think his abilities in combination with his physical preconditions and athleticism is something Wlad has never seen
    before.
     
  8. Faceplant

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    Well of course hes never been in with a fight EXACTLY like Joshua, as no fighter has been in with someone EXACTLY like their next opponent until they face them, but Wlad has been in with fighters closer to Joshua than the other way round. Josh has never been past 7 rounds and has only faced one borderline top ten opponent, and he is going up against the best heavy of the last fifteen years, but apparently Josh is a 2-1 favourite. I'm probably going to make a lot of miney from this fight.
     
  9. On The Money

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    And what is Joshua's best opponent? Fringe men like Breazeale and Whyte? How are they prep for a hof atg?
     
  10. Keith-Joshua

    Keith-Joshua New Member Full Member

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    I see this fight as a 50-50 fight , maybe i am favouring AJ slightly.
    And if we are all honest about it , Wlad didn't beat many good fighters , he fought in a weak hw era.

    I can't think of a fighter he had beaten , who i consider to be better than AJ.
    He fought opponents close in size to AJ , but they were not close to AJ in terms of fighting style.

    Jameel McCline, Ray Austin, Tony Thompson, Mariusz Wach were all lumbering and slow and not as powerful
    as Joshua.

    Wlad looked awful in his last two fights against Jennings and Fury and i think Jennings would have no chance
    against AJ.
     
  11. Legend X

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    I see where you are coming from but most of what you believe here is based on HOPE.
    You're hoping AJ can translate looking very good against C-level opponents into being good enough to stand out and beat genuine top-level fighters.
    Everyone who supports AJ is living on this hope. He looks good, he clearly has some talent, he has an Olympic gold medal, he's undefeated as a professional, he's young, he's got an IBF belt ...... but really he's still largely an unproven prospect.
    It would only take one or two losses for you to reconsider the statement that he's better than Pulev for example, since in reality Pulev clearly has better wins than AJ has.

    Wlad is the right fight for AJ though, a risk, but a fight that will keep the hype train running.
     
  12. Keith-Joshua

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    Pulev's best wins are Chisora and Ustinov and Joshua's best wins are Whyte and Breazeale.

    Pulev has not better wins than AJ and i think AJ would beat him.

    Pulev is a boxer with a good jab , he doesn't have much punching power , you can't win a fight against Wlad
    with nearly the same fighting style , only worse.

    Pulev was smaller than Klitschko as well.

    I don't think that highly of Pulev , he fights since 2009 and lost to the only good opponent , he ever had.

    At least AJ has dominated his opponents , i think he could have beaten Breazeale , Molina and Martin in
    one night , i really believe that.

    Pulev is one of the best opponents Wladimir ever had , that shows you how weak his resume really is.
     
  13. Legend X

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    Yeah, but Eddie Hearn squeezed more money out of you doing it over three separate PPVs.
     
  14. HerolGee

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    on current evidence, that of joshie being a medaliist who has managed to win a title against a cruddy opponent, hes on par with iggy and chaggy..

    so wlad has actually faced this, and won both.
     
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  15. Todd498

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    I bet anything those tall fighters you mentioned have a better chin than Joshua. McCline and Wach are also as physically strong as Anthony.

    Skill wise Wladimir has fought more skilled fighters. Byrd, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Fury and Chagaev were more skilled than Joshua.

    Punching power wise Haye, Peter, Brewster and Jefferson all hit every bit as hard as Joshua. Anthony isn't bringing ANYTHING that Wlad hasn't seen before.