Wladimir Klitschko....will he go down as an all-time great heavyweight?

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  1. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. He's beaten the best in his era, but his era sucks so completely he can't be taken that seriously. He's very good at what he does, but the majority of the 70s contenders would flatten him in quick time.
     
    threethirteen, Oct 21, 2009
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  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    He does only hold one title.

    Last time I looked, Valuev has the WBA, Vitali has the WBC.

    WBO and Ring are simply bull**** titles. One organisation ranks dead people, the other serves only to sell magazines.
     
    Beeston Brawler, Oct 22, 2009
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  3. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    go back about 2 years and the beltholders were

    1. wladimir
    2. chagaev
    3. ibragimov
    4. peter

    wlad had already beaten peter, and retrospectively we now know that was peter at his best, and wlad was still improving. then he went on to beat ibragimov, hardly a great fight but he won it without difficulty. last summer he beat chagaev. there is no way you can satisfy everyone, because there will always be fighters coming up that build up hype and are 'the next big thing'. unless a guy fights once a week there will always be guys like haye, solis, chambers- and for everyone one of those guys he beats another 2 will appear. i think it would be fair to say he dominated the division in (at least) the year running up to vitali's comeback
     
    Squire, Oct 22, 2009
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well I have him currently at #20, and that may be a little conservative...there's a possibility he'd move up even if he retired tomorrow, as he would be retiring as unbeaten champion. As long as he continues to add to resume, he continues to move up. But I wouldn't describe his as great. The cut off point currently for me at HW and the word "great" is #14, so Wlad would have to make #15 to be considered great. He could make that if he boxes on.
     
    McGrain, Oct 22, 2009
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  5. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say yes....hes close now but not there yet....a few more wins will get him in...but not close to the front...but still he should get in the top 30.
     
    ashley, Oct 22, 2009
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  6. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He´s the dominating force in the division and eventhough the division seems to be weak, i would say Wlad will be an ATG. Not top 10 though, lack of the ability to go to war is missing.
     
    rapidfire, Oct 22, 2009
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  7. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good

    Unfortunaly late in his career (after losses) but not too late.
     
    jisi, Oct 22, 2009
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  8. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Top 15. Can give him top 10 because this era is so terrible. Sadly I think it will get worse.
     
    MURK20, Oct 22, 2009
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  9. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is the best today. I can't predict accurately how he would have done against champions from the past. All I know is that right now, no active heavyweight in the world can beat him.
     
    Boxfan1, Oct 22, 2009
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  10. grouch

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    You need to switch away from boxing. Please, do us all a favor.

    Enjoy.
     
    grouch, Oct 22, 2009
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  11. grouch

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    You are a definition of ******. :nut

    Enjoy,
     
    grouch, Oct 22, 2009
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's a big shout.
     
    McGrain, Oct 22, 2009
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  13. grouch

    grouch Member Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Lewis was knocked out cold! What could be worse than that?

    Wlad in comparison to Lewis has monumental chin :nut
     
    grouch, Oct 22, 2009
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  14. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not in the heavies there won't. The most recent young up and commers that anyone gave a **** about were a young Tua, Ibeabuchi and Wlad himself. The heavyweight division is awful.
     
    mrbassie, Oct 22, 2009
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  15. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    so now to discredir wlad about his titles, you discredit the belts.

    Bottom line, RING,WBO,IBF,IBO (ok maybr IBO not uo there)

    so if your fav fighter had the wbo or ring belts, you woulndt say your fighter is champ? yeah right...im sure all of a sudden those belts would be #1 in your eyes:yep
     
    CHEF, Oct 22, 2009
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