wladimir klitschko wouldve been a title threat in any era

I agree, good article and yes, Wlad on a H2H basis would be a handful for almost anyone. I don't agree with the premise that in 5-10 years we'll be looking back and re-evaluating his comp however. I just don't think his comp is very good, but neither is it his fault that it isn't.

 

good article and Vlad does have a chance in any era against any Champ. I pick him over ****ey (who was frail and had not yet went past 8 rds) and I pick him over any version of Witherspoon and although Shavers could hit he lost most of the big ones other than Norton

I want to ask who in the last 40 years has been comparable to Vlad for size and ****nal ( Lewis?) as far as power Lewis and Tyson?

I have seen Vlad box and I have seen him when he lets go. Don't get me wrong a Big puncher who lands first always has a chance but Vlad has a very good chance vs anyone in any era The fights coming up now vs the winner of Stilverne - Wilder or Fury-Chisora could be tough fights, we really don't know how well Wilder takes it but he appears to have great power and that's always a risk but it bothers me that they are very careful with his match-ups

Bryant Jennings is a smart fighter and he has accurate power but may be too small

 

Don't like watching him at all, but, yeah, there are not many I'd bet money on beating him.

Have a very hard time seeing boxers like Ali, Holmes and Holyfield beating him. He's just so good at controlling range and tempo against guys like that. But there are quite a few aggressive hard punching HWs that should have a good chance against the Wlad that was almost KO'd by Peters (no to mention the one that was KO'd by Sanders, Brewster et al) but perhaps Wlad has improved since then. What say you about that?

 

I agree. His earlier defeats shouldn't be ignored, but at the same time they are factored too heavily into weighing his chances in fantasy fights, as 1. He has since improved his game, and 2. The men who upset him were anomalies who could have upset a lot of people. Few people have stood at or near the top of a division as long as Wladimir Klitschko and even fewer have rebounded from such devastating defeats to do what he did. His opposition may not be "stellar" per say, but its not the weakest of all time either. Lot's of olympians, unbeaten winning streaks, title holders, decent experience and men of great size within that group.

 

he'd be a contender anytime, yes. hes big enough to.

but not in every location - outside Germany he would lose by DQ continuously.

 

mhua!

true, I for one would be very upset if lewis decided to defend against a 37 year old retiree that was Sanders. I'd want my money back.

 

wlad does it a LOT more. within 5 seconds of the match starting last night...and then again.. again.

he spent more time in clinch than throwing.

 

Wladimir is defeating heavyweights in their absolute primes and making it look easy. His resume will age nicely. He is not knocking out badly faded fighters of a previous generation or totally shot guys getting by on their name. If anything hampers his resume it's the fact that several of the better fighters he defeated for one reason or another had their careers come to an abrupt halt, Negating the ability of them to prove that they were great (good) but just not Wlad level great.
Sultan Ibrigamov Retired
David Haye- basically retired had one additional fight a KO over Chisora
Calvin Brock- Vision loss retired

Had these three fighters continued and won fights against good fighters as Povetkin has post Klitschko people would have less of an opportunity to knock Wlad's credentials. As it is I feel Wlad is severely underrated.

 

no, agreed the ghost of corrie. change the words to their opposite meaning and then you have it right.

wlad is being defeated by HWs in the absolute worst shape, and making them look good.

 

When it comes to Wlad's defeats I'm not so bothered by his defeats as by the manner of them. In this age of super big and super strong HWs anyone can walk into a KO punch. That will happen if you keep busy against the best. But when Wlad got KO'd it wasn't by a single punch that landed by a single mistake, but rather that he showed no poise or defensive fundamentals at all. No head movement or lateral movement, chin up, flailing arms - beginner's stuff really. Terrible.

If he's pressured and can't do better than that against say Liston, Foreman, Tyson, Bowe, Lewis as well as mere contender types such as Lyle, Tua, Mercer, Ruddock etc, they're going to kill him. But the fact that he hasn't really been in trouble since the first Peter fight (2005) shows that either he has had the luck not run into guys like that or that he has improved a lot. I haven't been following him so closely, so I leave that up to you to decide.

 

Wlad has lost three fights. In two of them he was completely dominating his opponent and lost do to stamina issues. Against Purrity he fought at the pace of a welterweight and won the first 9 rounds handily. He began to tire fast in the 10th and was stopped on his feet in the 11th. Purrity basically did nothing but hang in and absorb a terrible beating. If anything Wlad's poor corner cost him. He had never been beyond 8 rounds in his career (and had gone 8 only once) and was in against a durable opponent. His game plan should of been more measured going in and by the sixth his corner should of told him to slow down now that this fight was likely to go distance. Instead they let him fire away like a jack rabbit till he couldn't stand or lift his arms. Clearly was superior fighter.
Brewster was being dominated as well until Wlad g***ed himself going for the stoppage. Wlad avenged behind his jab in a much slower paced fight.
The Sanders fight is the one where Wlad was clearly dominated by his opponent. A big fast and hard hitting southpaw. He got caught, he was flustered and his poise did go out the window. He just couldn't recover and he got destroyed. 11 years ago.

 

Ok. At this point the censorship is just messing with us.

 

Yeah, something's going on, I wrote Sa****ay in a post earlier

 

Holy cra p
It's ****