wladimir klitschko wouldve been a title threat in any era

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  1. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ***** ****. *** ***** *** *ly.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    he ran out of stamina after getting hit hard sure. he always does just after the hard hits connect, coincidence huh.


    he was absolutely destroyed in those 3 fights.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In all of these losses, plus the fight he managed to win against Peters, he showed a lack of poise and defensive fundamentals that would cost him dearly against many past fighters. End of.
     
  4. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Ferguson was DQd for holding against Tyson.

    Bruno was almost first round DQd for the same.

    Douglas didn't commit any clinching against Tyson.

    Evander did but at least he worked as well on the inside which makes it some what excusable.
     
  5. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When you become exhausted you tend to lose poise.
    He actually rebounded nicely in Peters fight.
    He has gone a full decade against the best fighters in the world and has done well and showed superb defensive fundamentals.
     
  6. mcvey

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    Do you know what a joke you are? I said Pulev had journeyman skills , was slow, his feet appeared to be in cement, with no head movement , and was easy to hit.
    I said Wlad was a better boxer and a better puncher so he would win
    .I said when Wlad realised how easy to hit Pulev was he went for it.
    This guy reiterates exactly what I said and you call it ,"a pretty good article ,"you ****ing hypocrite.

    Here is my post.

    "Pulev was horrible you couldn't miss him with a punch, his defence is non-existant his feet appeared to be in cement and his speed was poor he is a predictable plodder who lacks power.
    Wlad can be champion as long as he wants just as long as he fights fighters with the ability of Pulev. "

    "He showed heart and the skill level of a journeyman, he has zero defence , zero skill,and zero power".
    Now how is that different to the link you agree with below ?

    "He really was a poor man’s Klitschko, and he stood right in front of Wladimir with his head straight up and offered little or no movement

    Pulev was every bit as crude stylistically as most perceived him to be. He was a sitting duck for Klitschko's right hands and left hooks


    It was painfully obvious early on that Klitschko did everything better in the ring than Pulev that one fighter can do over another. He had a better and more imaginative offense, he was quicker in getting off, and once he sensed Pulev had no defense for his lead left hook to the chin,he disguised it beautifully and nailed Pulev almost anytime he cut loose with it."

    Frank Lotierzo the author of that piece also says in the article'

    " No, I don't think Wladimir is amongst the top-10 all-time great heavyweight champs".

    And he is 100% RIGHT!


    You have the nerve to talk about "double standards":patsch
    What a ****ing W***ER YOU ARE!
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Mcvey,

    This is a Wlad thread. You'll have to live with your own stupidity. " Marciano lacked one punch power. " " Pulev had the heart and skills of a journeyman. " I could list more quotes from you. The readers get the point. Pulev had the heart of a warrior. You're 100% wrong.

    To be called a poor's man all time great does not make you a journeyman. It makes you a good professional.

    Is Wlad all time top 10? His career isn't over yet, and he looks strong as ever. Let's see if he passes Holmes and Louis record for title defenses. Then I suspect most who have Wlad outside their top ten will re-evaluate.

    PS: Reposting an article that I did not write in no way makes what I said a double standard. Its a 3rd party opinion. You really have s#^t for brains.
     
  8. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Once more you moronic Chimp : I DID NOT SAY PULEV HAD A JOURNEYMAN'S HEART such a thing does not exist .

    This is my statement.

    "He showed heart and the skill level of a journeyman"
    Get someone to explain the difference to you,any tenyears old child should be able to .:patsch

    You need to learn to read.

    The author of that article said:

    "He really was a poor man’s Klitschko, and he stood right in front of Wladimir with his head straight up and offered little or no movement. Yes, that's basically the strategy the slower-handed Kubrat Pulev 20-1 (11) attempted to beat the best heavyweight in the world, Wladimir Klitschko 63-3 (53), with this past weekend.
    Pulev was every bit as crude stylistically as most perceived him to be. He was a sitting duck for Klitschko's right hands and left hooks"


    He made exactly the same points I made!
    You are :
    AN ILLITERATE ******.
     
  9. janitor

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    I think that the case against a top 10 ranking is getting hard to argue, to be honest. No I am not particularly impressed by the top contenders of this era, but that still leaves us with a lot to argue against.

    Even if we assume that this is the weakest era in the divisions history, the top contenders should be able to mount some sort of effective challenge between them.

    Also, historical standing has to be measured against your own era, in order to be rigorous. We don't let numbskulls from the general forum dismiss Joe Louis's record by saying "every fighter of that era was cr4p so it doesn't count", which means that we can't really do the same thing here.
     
  10. ribtickler68

    ribtickler68 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. I don't like Vlad's style in the least but he is a very efficient boxer who dominates his era. Funnily enough, I think tough swarmers might have given Vlad more trouble than boxer types, but they seem thin on the ground at the moment.

    I think he deserves credit for rebounding from terrible losses earlier in his career to become such a dominating figure.
     
  11. tommytheduke

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    He is 6'6 and 240+ . He would give any heavyweight in history a good fight.
     
  12. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would. A 6'6" 245lb guy who can punch, box and move. Not an easy proposition for anyone.
     
  13. mcvey

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    So was Jess Willard.
     
  14. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He bores the **** out of me but he knows how to win and in Germany he will get away with laying all over his challengers .
    I agree to beat him you have to be prepared to take stick to get in , McGrain disagrees but no one will beat him at long range.
    I give Stiverne a chance but he must be in shape and be much more active. Wlad is not my cup of tea but, give him credit he is always in shape and carries himself as a champion should.
     
  15. HerolGee

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    lou ferringo is 6 foot 6 too.
    he would give anyone a good fight.