Wladimir Klitschko

I dont agree with your post at all. In fact I would pick Toney to always beat Adamek if they fought tomorrow even. Haye is a big question marked smoke screen. The contenders that have challenged the Klistchkos and thats what were talking about here are horrible. Povetkin is completely unproven himself.

 

I tend to agree with this post. I dont really think Vitali has it in him to change up his style. I dont think Wlad does either, and I think Wlad is the better faster harder punching boxer.
If we are talking about matching the brothers against fighters who will force the fight, I agree Vitali would probably be the safer pick.

 

-Toney is going to have to prove he could even handle a fringe guy like Arreola at this point. His last top 10 run he got schooled by Peter for god's sake.

-2005 Title Challengers:

Toney
Barrett
Krasniqi
Williamson
Golota

Wlad's Recent Contenders:

Haye
Peter
Chambers
Chageave
Rahman

Sorry, I see a considerable class difference. Toney is the only stand out and he would get get beat by Peter twice the following year, the second in a near shut out. Vitali and Haye have been fighting some stiffs though.

 

Wasnt Peter a lot better when he faced Wlad the first time in 2005? I think so.. Cmon :nut

 

Haye plays right into Wlads hand. So I don't think it will answer questions about his ability to control range (Which is good, but against what opposition). I'd love to see his this ability against someone like Joe Frazier. Not an impersonation of a fat, past it Sam Peter for 2 rounds in their second bout. In which case, Wlad didn't look spectacular controlling the range in the early part of that fight.

I would say, I think his brother might be superior at controlling range.

 

Wlad is good, and he's beaten enough of the top names of the last 10+ years for us to note that he's very good indeed. The opposition make not have been great at all but that's not his fault. In the context of his own time he's become consistent and a level above the also-rans. His record is comparable to Lennox Lewis's, IMO, as is his career trajectory and even his style to some extent.
Haye is just another mediocre feather in his cap, but it's going to be a big payday for both, and should gain Wlad some well-deserved attention and recognition from some places outside of Germany and Ukraine for a change.
I'm no big fan, but he's paid his dues.

 

Peter is as good as the size of his gut, he's either in shape or not; not much else to the guy. I know Wlad was worse in 2005.

And really?

You don't agree Wlad as a partially unified Champion, with Vitali and Haye as belt holders is better than the King plagued Byrd, Rahman, slipping Ruiz/Valuev, and the increasingly damaged Brewster as the rulers of a badly fractured division?

The K Brothers, some decorated cruisers, and fresh faces have done this division some good in the past couple of years.

How credible is a division with a fading Rahman as its most active Champion?

 

YES :thumbsup

+ OLD Rahman was SHOT

Chagaev had HEPATITUS

CHAMBERS is a FAT CRUISER

 

Foreman was a fat middleweight. With modern nutrition and weight draining, he'd be a good Light Heavy in today's division.

 

****ING ******. You should be banned you ****** troll. :twisted::twisted::fire

Foreman was a natural 250lber, trained down to 230lbs And then drained down to 220lbs. :bbb

 

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Klitschko threads bring out the best in everyone.

And no Toney wouldn't beat Adamek now. Jesus have you seen the man lately? ***** looks like a burnt ass Jabba the Hutt. Toney ain't **** right now.