Wladimir Klitscko ducked Dereck Chisora

You keep saying that. Chisora was rated in the WBO top 10. Chisora's best win wasn't Danny Williams. It was against Sam Sexton when he defended the British title and won Sexton's Commonwealth title.

Sexton was on the rise, at the time, too. His only loss was to Chisora.

Chisora was a highly rated young fighter at the time, like a Jared Anderson is now.

Some guys get rated in the top 10 before they beat a top 10 contender. It happens all the time. Joshua did. Wilder did. Whyte did.

When Wlad bypassed him, Chisora fought Tyson Fury and Fury won a decision. He then fought the #1 contender Helenius and everyone thought Chisora won, and then he was given a title shot against Vitali.

And who he lost to doesn't matter. Hell, it's not like Wlad beat Fury or Vitali either.

Again, who were Puritty, Sanders and Brewster's best wins before they knocked out Wlad?

Nobody who beat Wlad beat someone BETTER than Wlad before facing him. So insisting Chisora loses because he didn't beat anyone better than Wlad doesn't carry any weight at all.

NOBODY beat someone better than Wlad before they got in the ring and knocked out Wlad. But they still did it.

I have to go. The grass won't mow itself.

 

Wins over a shot Danny Williams and Sam Sexton are just domestic level wins as i keep saying "hadn't done anything at world level".

And i was on the about the ring magazine ratings which Chisora wasn't ranked in the top 10.

Highly rated by who ? he was a domestic level fighter at that point the Ring Ratings certainly didn't have him highly rated he wasn't in their top 10.

Yes i'm well aware but you keep saying "highly rated" he wasn't highly rated. He was an upcoming domestic level fighter that's it nothing more nothing less. And even with hindsight the highest status Chisora reached was fringe contender that's it.

Yes and during this time Wladimir was fighting Haye who was considered a much bigger threat with KO power, which makes no logical sense that Wladimir would be afraid to fight an unproven domestic level fighter in Chisora. But will fight the ranked number 2 Heavyweight who had KO power and was the WBA world champion.

But Fury was considered nothing more than a domestic level fighter when he fought Chisora, as others have said even David Price was considered to have more potential than Fury at that point, remember Fury was considered the meme boxer who punched himself in the face for quite alot of his early career.

So i don't think losing a one sided decision to Fury at that point was in anyway beneficial to him.

Again i don't see the point your trying to make ? were all well aware Wladimir lost to fighters that ranking wise aren't as good him although Puritty was before he become champion. But you somehow keep missing the point that Wladimir fought A better more dangerous fighter in David Haye, and as i keep saying until i'm blue in the face it doesn't make logical sense that Wladimir would be scared of Chisora but will fight Haye.

As i said earlier this isn't like Holmes swerving Page to fight very undeserving challengers like Frazier, Frank. Wladimir fought a better opponent who himself destroyed Chisora.

As i said in my first post yeah i don't care if Wladimir did or didn't pull out of fight against Chisora, because in the end he fought a better opponent end of.

So it isn't like Fury not fighting Usyk because Usyk is the clear number 2, And Fury is clearly not fighting anyone else dangerous by fighting an MMA boxer or Chisora 3 times so until Fury proves himself its alot worse.

Yes i agree this a pointless debate that is going nowhere so i'm happy to end it here, in truth were debating about something that doesn't belong in the world boxing forum because this all happened over a decade ago.

And the poster who originally made this thread is troll Tyson Fury fan who done this as a bait thread as he often does, so i think we both are better than this to debate over something so trivial and that's the last i'm gonna say on this particular thread.

 

... and yet when Fury had the chance of fighting Usyk for a skewed 70-30 in his own favour he dumped a load in his pants and ran. Now he's fighting an MMA guy who has even worse skills than Wilder Fury is the world's biggest boxing joke right now. I hope Ngannou catches lightning in a bottle and knocks him out.

 

Beats Dustin Nichols and Ruiz at eating at an open buffet? That might even be possible

 

Chisora's performance against Vitali was heroic Haye's against his less tough younger brother was lackluster in comparison

 

Did Chisora have torn shoulder ligaments?

 

Charles may well be lying about the specifics ("Steward told me that Chisora would beat Wlad") and Steward may have been playing up the threat posed by Chisora in order to keep Wlad focused or hype the fight but there's no doubt in my mind that Steward thought Chisora was more dangerous than most of Wlad's defences and that Wlad pulled out twice rather than fight him, with fabricated reasons for the pullouts provided. Steward singled out Chisora's mental toughness and "unorthodox style" in particular as threats. He may have foresaw another Puritty/Brewster 1/Peter 1 style loss or life and death.