Wladimir Klitscko V Riddick Bowe, Make A case For Your Winner.?

Watch the fight it was deemed very controversial at the time, many people thought Bowe lost the fight. It's 6-4 fight either way or a draw it was a very close fight.

 

Golota would have a real shot with Wlad don't kid yourself otherwise.

 

People like to say this because Bowe was dominated so badly, and whilst i agree that Bowe was past his prime. My question is how many skilled big men did Bowe ever beat ? i think Golota deserves some credit, Bowe was considered the number 1 Heavyweight at the time when Golota beat him up, remember Golota was considered a cherry pick for Bowe and it went horribly wrong.

 

He beat Holyfield twice that tops anything Wlad did imo, and I'd pick Evander to beat Wlad. But we don't have to agree ,it's all good!

 

When did i say he didn't ? i rate Golota fairly highly before he was destroyed by Lewis. I don't think he beats Wladimir but he gives him a good argument for sure.

 

Bowe had considerable height, reach, weight, advantages vs Holyfield. And whilst i agree that the Holyfield win is better than anything on Wladimir's resume. Outside of that Bowe's resume is pretty poor in all honesty, and he never fought any punchers in his career.

 

Tubbs fought a slippery fight off the backfoot. Hitting and moving. Ambush attacks. Fast hand counters. Klitschko and Tubbs were nothing alike

Furthermore Klitschko couldn't pick off the B levellers he fought from distance. The idea he could do that to Bowe is based on beating somebody like Pianeta

 

Don't answer to question with a question.

Wladimir is one of the best fighters at range ever. He possessed one of the best straight rights in HW division history and outstanding jab. He's also slightly bigger than Bowe, though not by much.

Bowe is an in-fighter with poor defense. Show me one fight when he looked as good as Wladimir on the outside. I don't need to prove Wlad's value here, all you need to do is watch his random fight.

 

What?

 

Bowe would take Wlad's power, the reverse is not the case.I agree Wlad is outstanding at range where his superior reach and boxing skill enable him to land without fear of reprisal.Up against Riddick he would be facing a man with the same reach , an excellent jab ,and right cross of his own.Only an inch taller than Bowe ,Wlad would not be able to smother his attacks nor drape himself all over him as he did the much smaller Povetkin in that disgraceful exhibition of a defence.
Wlad looks a million dollars when his opponent is not throwing punches,when they are he shuts up shop.
If Bowe had only an inside game I could see your argument,but he had a fine jab of his own.
Show me one fight where he looked as good as Wlad on the outside?
Show me one fight where Wlad fought a similar sized guy with a great jab of his own that he dominated?
Bowe preferred a close fight, that doesn't mean he couldn't fight at range watch him against Gonzalez six feet seven with an 82 inch reach and a very good jab of his own .Bowe won the battle of the jabs and all the inside game ,and he had the chin to take the Cuban's shots as he would Wlad's.
Once Bowe lands a couple of rights on Wlad the Ukrainian will revert to his heavyweight Sammy Angott modus operandi, clutch ,maul ,and lean, but he will be trying to do it on a similar sized guy who has it all over him for close work at which he was absolutely useless,
Bowe beat good jabbers such as Biggs ,Tubbs,Thomas. How many did Wlad beat?
Bowe isnt a mobile wardrobe like Mariusz Wach or Pianeta, he could box, move ,and punch.
I've seen all Wlad's televised fights many of which were against challengers with little to no skills of any consequence.Pianeta,Wach,Thompson,Leapai . WTF did they ever beat?

 

Hide, Gonzalez,Cooper, were punchers and Holyfield hit hard enough to drop Mercer.
How many punchers better than them did Wlad face?
Didn't Wlad have considerable physical advantages over his better opponents?

 

Pianeta was C level. Who was Wlad great at range against? He hugged all the best guys he fought to death.

 

He didn't win fights because he hugged his opponents, he scored on the outside against them.

 

Nobody can take Wlad's power for the whole fight. Chin is important, but good defense is far more important. If Wlad could land more on Bowe, I'm pretty sure he'd beat him.

Besides, who did Bowe face that was even close to Wlad in terms of punching power?

Wladimir faced plenty of big fighters with long reach, so it's not like he needed that advantage. Bowe's jab was decent, I wouldn't call it excellent though and it's certainly not better than Wlad's.

Do you think that fighters were gunshy against Wladimir because they couldn't throw punches? Or because they were catious because they felt his power?

Pulev had very stiff jab and Wlad dominated him. He also schooled Joshua as an old man from the oustide.

On the contrary - show me one fight when Bowe fight a similar sized guy with a great job that he dominated.

That's funny, considering that Wladimir has much better resume than Bowe.

 

Negative. Hugging saved him from a loss against Sam Peter. Had he not scuppered Peter's attacks all throughout the fight with excessive illegal holding he would have gassed out and lost lost he did against Purity.

On the flipside to that , he did lose to Brewster because he wasn't allowed to hold. The ref wouldn't allow holding which is why Brewster was able to get his work off in close. Wlad mentally and physically shattered as a result.

Re: scoring and winning on the outside.. Yeah because he would hug and lean all over guys , then his personal ref stepped in , separated them , and moved the opponent to the other side of the ring. . Rinse and repeat.

Klitschko wasn't boxing these guys off him with skill. Hugging and ref assistance played a part more than anything else.

Saying Wlad is great outboxer is like saying Jack Johnson was a great outboxer. Its a misnomer.

His brother Vitali was actually a good at keeping range , because to keep range you need to be able to box off the backfoot. Which Vitali was able to do. Wlad could not box off the backfoot at all.. Thats why he was nicknamed Clinchko , Grabimir , Dr Octopus etc .