Wladimir says, he took Chisora because he did´nt trust Haye

OK,,,,,,this happen alot when there is no TRUST:yep

 

Fair post.

I think even when you wade through the endless reems of bull****, ultimatley the fans have lost out on a big unification fight.

 

Yea. I don't think it helps that the two camps don't trust or like each other. Its a headache trying to make sense of it all, I'm just going to sit back and see what happens now :roll:

 

But he wants wlad to pass up on 7 million to make him happy,,,,,the irony

plus what about other 2 times he pulled out with the brothers, hell 3 including crying about this.......

Your hero is a lying, freeloading, selfserving *****, who every one of Dr. Steelhammer an Dr. IronFist fans would like to see them beat this ****er ass up,,,,,,,,,,But, let be honest, hayes been using that for the past 3 years to make money, now wlad just one up this guy. An in the end, as a fan, i know he ducked wlad:yep

 

you have to laugh at some of the posters on here
100 percent wlad
no haye 100 percent la bla bla

I didnt realise that they sold tickets to the negotiation Table!!, what i have saw in the past few weeks is team haye be as transparant in thier dealings as possible then wlad says no and its hayes fault i mean cmon theres a time to criticise and theres a time to look at the facts the fight aint happening because theres a royal wedding the day before k2s broadcasters date hayemaker said make it june or july 2nd to maximum earning potential and publicity and wlad says no?

if anyones at fault uts the tv execs in germany and k2 not willing to compromise

i wonder why that is?

when haye pulled out the last time his paymasters at setanta went bust meaning he had no cheque(yes really nobody in his team was getting a dime people make more of it but he was still contractually obligated to fight unless he was injured.
I know I wouldnt be fighting a world championship fight for nothing and risking my whole career when i could find a new backer , i think people really think haye doesnt want it (ducking etc) but ask your selves this if he was ducking why would he chase the man up an escalator and keep hounding him if that was so? he is ducking noone and the politics of boxing ruin it as always and we the pigeons pick at the facts and tear them to shreds but people shouldnt be so quick to blame just one side especially when its k2 who declined.

 

How did he pull out of this? he cant fight in April because of Khan, he can fight May/June.....its funny how Wlad would rather fight Chisora than wait 3 weeks to fight Haye....whos the *****?

 

Jisi my friend setanta went broke so haye would of done that fight for free and worst case he would of had to pay money to fight thats why he pulled out with a "back injury"

 

exactly but the idiots won't listen mate, they don't know how to be objective :-(

 

No he cant Khan has the tv rights for ppv in march and sky wont do 2 events because of royal wedding!

Earliest day is may

 

Plenty of fighters has fought 2 fights in a short timespan. It's not like it's uncommon. Haye should have signed the fight for July as he shouldn't bother what Wlad does in the meantime, alternately incorporate a fine if Wlad has to postpone due to injuries sustained in his tune-up.

No matter how you spin it, Haye is to blame for this fiasco.

 

How did he pull out of this fight.:think

3 weeks to fight hayes:huh

Who is the *****:blood

He signed to fight wlad, correct, wlad then informed him that he was going to have a fight in april, hayes then pulled out of the fight.

It is a 8 week between fights, not 3, either way, it wlad time off, he should beable to do what he pleases....

Well after reading what i just wrote above, that label would have to go on hayes, i mean be honest, wlad wants to fight in april, to use that as reason to pull out of a 4th fight with the klitschkos on hayes part:rofl:rofl, i guess now he is got 2 a piece for backing out of fights. (2, vitali 2, vlad)

 

IF HE DIDN'T TRUST HAYE WHY ENTER NEGOTIATIONS WITH A MAN YOU DO NOT TRUST!!!!????? simple question.

 

Haye cant fight in April as Khan fights then! He can fight in May, so why wouldnt Wlad just put the fight back 3 weeks and fight in May....instead he chose to fight an amatuer!

 

Lets look at this in the whole picture and end this thread

2009: Haye was due to fight but days before setanta went broke which would mean haye would not get paid any thing so he made an excuse not to fight him and to be honest you cant blame him. Before you high light my comments and write back would wlad fight for free? ummmm no

Right welcome to 2011 gentlemen

After Wlad pulls out of a fight with Chisora in december due to an ab injury (later seen playing golf) he and haye start to talk business!

Wlad and haye both want to fight and both can get paid! Haye agree's to every thing from who walks in the ring first to who's name gets called out first and who's face is first on all prom stuff etc.

The fight haye and wlad wanted in march but due to sky's commitment to khan and not wanting to do 2 ppv in 1 month wlad and haye then start to look at other dates. With wlad still having 1 fight left with rtl the earliest date sky and rtl could agree was july 2nd!

Haye agree's to fight in july but Wlad is saying he need a keep you busy fight 8 weeks before bit risky considering how much money is on the cards.

Haye cannot do this because haye has a manditory due the only way he can fight wlad is for wlad to fight him before chisora which wlad wont do!!!!!!!

This means haye HAS to fight his manditory which the earliest is may meaning he wont be able to fight in july!

Its easy for wlad to say he will still fight in july but the only reason he is saying it is because is nows haye cant fight!!!

So wlad said no to a 10 million plus fight to fight a bum!!

These are the facts wlad ducked haye and there is no other way to look at it!

 

Isn't that Khan date in April, which is why Sky killed the April 30 date? Would make more sense since I checked and the Royal wedding is April 29.


He can fight a regular bout in March.