"Wladimir versus The Legends."

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  1. Mendoza

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    Wlad could win or lose any of these fights.

    Foreman KO 10? Foreman would be gassed by then. If you want Foreman, I think an early to mid round KO is a much better pick.

    I think Wlad would likely defeat Frazier. Keep in mind Wlad improved a lot post Sanders. No way Frazield take his power, and Wlad might even be a better clincher than Ali. In fact I think he is.
     
  2. dyna

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    I think a big problem for George here is that Wlad has brutal power too.
    So foreman could also be pushed to the ropes.
     
  3. dyna

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    Wladimir always got up from a punch.
    Always.

    Also I doubt Wlad would get overconfident mid rounds like Douglas.
     
  4. Absolutely!

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    Yeah, I know. That was just the way I saw Foreman winning the fight, not how I see the fight going down.
     
  5. Nightcrawler

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    :thinkgood point. i'll have to reconsider a bit. if he uses that tactic, it might well wear him down. course, he didn't seem to have too much trouble with ali wrenching on his neck for 3 fights ;)
     
  6. Absolutely!

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    True, though given the choice between having a 215lb man wrenching on your neck vs a 245lb man pushing down on you with all his weight, I'd probably take the former. I'd have a pretty sore neck the next day, but I wouldn't feel as if I'd just run a marathon.
     
  7. KidDynamite

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    Wladimir also always gets hurt from a punch that lands flush
    Always

    Wlad would throw one jab and Tyson would slip it and deliver a pouncing left hook penetrating his guard sending him out the ring leaving him convulsing in a grand mal seizure

    Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tubbs, Larry Holmes and others had never been KOed before and had good chins ... until they fought Tyson. And glass jawed Wlad is going to survive against the greatest fighter in history?
     
  8. Nightcrawler

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    absolutely. i just don't see harry greb stopping wlad. too small

    tyson though has a strong chance of knocking out wlad. the difference though between wlad and thomas or tubbs is that he is MUCH MUCH better. the holmes that tyson knocked out was not peak but still had a bit left in him. this wlad is still far far more effective than that holmes was (not better than larry but more effective in the ring)

    tyson could knock him out cold. or wlad could move, jab, grab and frustrate tyson until its time to unleash the right. wlad is likely a top 10 heavyweight when all is said and done. at this level almost any fighter could beat another on the right night. wlad will try to do what tucker did but better or what smith did in round 12.
     
  9. KidDynamite

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    Even with that way of fighting those guys took serious shots. You are not going to stop prime Tyson from getting his punches in. Mitch Green tried that and lost some teeth. Bonecrusher Smith was cut and hurt.

    Wlad looks good hitting guys with no real defense but Iron Mike Tyson is a completely different story. Wlad is hardly better than Thomas or Tubbs or the Holmes that fought Mike.


    If Wlad couldn't handle Corrie Sanders hand speed, then he has zero chance against Iron Mike.

    If they fought 1000 times Mike would win every single time. 950 times before the 3rd round. The other 50 times Wlad bitches out with a fake injury.
     
  10. Nightcrawler

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    there is no way i can get behind this statement. imo wlad is much better than that the first two and he has mastered the style to a significantly higher degree that green and smith tried. i love tubbs but even at his best, he wasn't as good as wlad. i wouldn't put thomas in his league.

    mike is great and has the right style for wlad. strangely though, wlad may have the right style for mike to. depends on who can work their respective gameplan.
     
  11. KidDynamite

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    sorry but Wlad cannot deal with Tysons speed, power, athleticism, defense, overall skill and most importantly his ferocity.

    No man in the long history of humanity could beat a prime Mike Tyson in a boxing match. He was in a class of his own.
     
  12. Waynegrade

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    Ali would totally school him. How could Vlad make it close ? He CAN`T hurt Ali, speed ? Not even in the ballpark, mental strength and tougness, no comparison, ring savvy, again no comparison. Ali would take a few rds to figure him out, then blister him with combinations that robotic Vald would have no chance against... Plus, prime Clay was a slasher when he hit people so i see it possible stoppage on cuts...
     
  13. Waynegrade

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    As for Tyson, prime Tyson he KO`s Vlad... Vlad`s chin, very shaky. Come on ! Sanders, Brewster, they are not in Tyson`s league as far as power. What EVERYONE seems to forget that with Tyson it wasn`t just the power with him. Rather the footwork and speed that got his fist to the destination. Vlad gets off slow, and I can`t be the only one to think that if Tyson hits Vlad one solid shot, ONE ! Fights over...The Tyson that wrecked Spinks, Homes and cleaned out the division, that Tyson hurts Vlad...
     
  14. Waynegrade

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    Vlad does not have the beard to take true Tyson bomb, no doubt about it. Think Brewster and Sanders
     
  15. Waynegrade

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    I want to vomit when I read about people raving about Vlad`s jab. Held low, pawed from his chest. Has anyone truly watched Holmes piston like stick ? Ali`s was much faster than Vlad`s, but Holmes was a nasty,nasty weapon. It was fast and it was heavy he used it to set the tone,punish and ultimately set up his sharp right hand. In a battle of jabs with Holmes and Vlad, Holmes without a doubt gets there faster and with punishing results...