wladimir vs haye. post your thoughts.

Do you honestly believe that Haye is the first person to study the Klitschkos like he was trying to get his PHD in Klitschkology before?

Cmon, people study the Dr's all the time but in recent boxing history everyone's been coming up short. And the funny part is they use the most basic parts of boxing, nothing fancy, to be great. But when you do something common (i.e. their simple style) ridiculously well, you get good results.

A great fight resulting in a Haye ko win would be great for heavyweight boxing. But its not gonna happen. Not right now.

 

he must be faster than Haye because he has 'fast' in his name

 

"Fast" is just a nickname for Chambers. Haye was very fast as a cruiserseught and hasn't lost his speed.

I'm a big Klitschko fan but I think a Haye fight is very dangerous for him. I see Haye coming out very fast and throwing combinations from the off. It'll be the first truly aggressivd fighter Klitschko has faced since Sanders. I'm not drawing a parallel there to suggest Haye will do the same Sanders did, but I do think that's the fight he will try to imitate the most.

I think most Klitschko opponents are scared and when they fight so cautiously, they admit defeat and try to survive. People will say "Yeah, but so did Haye against Valuev" and he may fight cautiously against Vitali but not Wladimir. I think he will try to be the boss and come out swinging. Given how mad Klitschko is at him, I think it may be a fight and as Haye throws shorter, faster punches, that's a dangerous predicament.

I really do think Haye will bring a different fight. He won't sit on the ropes and eat jabs, so the fight being so different may be dangerous for Wladimir.

I think it'll end quickly, probably the first three rounds, and it wouldn't suprise me at all if Klitschko was the loser of such a fight.

I actually think there are lots of similarities between this fight and Pavlik/Martinez. Haye and Martinez both have their hands low, rely on darting fast attacks. Their opponents are stiffer and more predictable, which could be their downfall.

 

Haye is a warrior.

What I meant by scared shitless, is that I trying to make it obvious that Wlad's power will be one his mind.

If you noticed in the my post youre referring to, I stated that Wlad would as well be thinking the same.

 

You're comparing a guy who at 209lbs looked fat to a guy who at 220lbs looks ripped.

Yay you.

You're no better than Haye fans who give the Klitschkos ****.

 

Take a look at Haye's fights against

* Mormeck
* Barrett
* Fragomeni
* Thompson
* Mock

Haye got tagged in all of the above fights. His defense is his biggest weakness, Haye is taking way too many punches from guys who are not known to have lighning fast hands. Haye at best has very average lateral and head movement, otherwise he would not have been hit with ease by the above fighters.

If a 40 year old Barrett could land on Haye, then why can't a top conditioned Wlad?

Before you guys go nuts again: I am not saying Haye can't KO Wlad. Of course he can. I just don't understand why some talk of Haye as if he's this super elusive, hard to hit fighter. Nothing is further from the truth.

 

Personally I see Wlad breaking him down late. I don't believe Haye can continue throwing for a full 12 rounds, I'm still suspect about his stamina in a pressure fight.

 

Now i'm not saying Haye is the greatest fighter to walk the earth....i think the Klits will beat Haye (just not as easy as some think). But you are pure hating now or know f'all about boxing to say something like that.

Haye is magnitudes faster than Chambers.

 

Well said, some people just don't think before they post do they.

 

Barrett landed about 4 punches in 5 rounds, and Barrett is known for being quick (both hand and foot speed). Look at how Haye has generally faired against upright European fighters, which is essentially what Wlad is. Wlad only knows 3 punches, and only throws 2 of them with any regularity. Haye is well-schooled, he can deal with that type of offense quite easily.

 

It will be similar to last nights borefest. But Haye wont last until the 12th.

People on these forums mistake boring fighters for bad fighters and exciting fighters for good fighters. This situation is the best example of that.

 

Fair dos, i just think scared shitless wasn't the right way to put it. He'll be mindful of it, but Haye is honest about the fact that he can be hurt and KOd and he doesn't seem too worried about it. On the other hand every time Wlad fights you can almost smell the fear. Look how reluctant he was to open up on the ghost of Rahman. It was pathetic. Haye would have banged that version of Rahman out inside 2 rounds.