Wladimir's reluctance to let his hands go...

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  1. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post👍🏼
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Wlad is old and Fury's movement and reach made him an extremely difficult target to measure up.
    Those are the only 2 factors relevant to this thread.
     
  3. The Mongoose

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    Your an idiot and disgrace to Tyson fans.


    Wlad didn't let his hands go because he was never in position to.

    Wlad couldn't go to the body, The same reason Wlads opponents could never, Fury had his arms low, guarding it.

    Fury was faster, longer, and kept him off balance with constant feints and movement.

    Wlad was too slow to close the distance, pressure behind the jab, and corner Fury as he did to bigger men in the past.

    A 39 year old against a faster, rangier fighter is a tall order. You know that and congrats on picking the right man. But this doesn't make Wlad scared or always overrated.
     
  4. DonnieB

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    Wlad is a disgrace he was flinching like a ficking girl when fury stamped his foot on the ground and moved his hands gal an inch.

    I have never seen anyone in professional boxing maybe bar 1 or 2 prospects react to those moves in that fashion

    Can you imagine Ali or big george flinching and blinking of fury did that to them. Or anyone else for that matter.

    Glad that the title has been wrestled away from that mess and charlatan.
     
  5. dan4579

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    He's not a Tyson fan, just a Wlad hater. I was and am still a huge Wlad fan and I have no problem agreeing with your post. Age has something to do with it, but Fury would be a massive handful for Wlad at any stage. Tyson fought a real good fight, full credit to him.
     
  6. kwyjibo

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    What fight were you watching? :patsch
     
  7. KO KIDD

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    Such a terrible performance

    You'd think after so long as champ he'd fight harder to keep it

    I could tell in the first round it wasn't his night

    He didn't really do anything til 11 or 12

    In a rematch if he punches it's a good fight

    Such an enigma of a performance
     
  8. Azzer85

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    I haven't always been a Wlad fan, but once he beat Povetkin he gained my respect and I placed him high in my top ten, however last nights performance or lack of has put him down my rankings again.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    Mike Tyson...I've defended Az before because Tyson gets unfair trash on this board..but if he is going to be a hypocrite and unfairly trash another great champion..f him.

    The Wlad who fought Haye with those fast hands and foot work, could get the job done. Wlad needs to turn the clock back physically to win the rematch...hard order.
     
  10. Azzer85

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    Actually I am a Fury fan and always have been.

    Years ago I picked him to beat both Klits and I was laughed at.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    If your going to call a 39 year old man scared because he couldn't close the distance against a faster, longer, younger switch hitter, I got nothing more to say you.

    I didn't see any points in the fight where Wlad was in position to throw more than he did. His jabs were falling short and his right hand was missing by a mile.

    Overrated for other reasons I can respect but not based offthis fight.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

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    Can any of you who attribute this to Wlad's age explain where in the fight you saw actual evidence of declining reflexes? Wlad was all there physically-- he just couldn't deal with a man who took away his jab and had the potential of countering him from long range. He's been scared of opening himself up to counterpunches since he took those three knockouts and the battering from Sam Peter earlier in his career. Nothing changed except his opponent.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Age doesn't help.
    He didn't look sharp against Jennings.
    You're right, he's never been one to open up since the Brewster fight in 2004, and Fury's style and size and abilities made it impossible for him.
    But age doesn't help, it just compounds the problem.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Wlads mobility and overall speed has declined steadily since the Haye fight. Which is why he had actually been more aggressive and physical lately, to make up for that drop in speed.

    Inability to pull the trigger is a sign of shot reflexes, he looked like late 30s Joe Louis out there.
     
  15. 11player

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    A few things I would like to say:

    - Fury did very good last night, nothing great though, let's not get carried away by the hype of the event. The coronation of a new HW champion is the great fact, the fight itself was only good. I feel Wladimir was capable of making the adjustments to win the fight ;

    - Wlad, much like the Jennings fight, way too reluctant to let his punches go, mainly his right hand, but even his jab lacked last night. And don't tell me he wasn't in position to throw because he was many times. He does have an inflated safety first approach that has got to the point of hurting his career.

    - Wlad has won underperforming for so long that he may have gotten confortable with it, confident it would carry him all the way. I only saw him try in last night's fight in the last 2 rounds. He landed some good punches in them.
    Maybe this fires something in Wladimir to prove his class and we get to see a couple of great performances before his retirement.

    - I'm happy the best fighter won and that the HW division will come to life again. Expect Joshua, Povetkin, Wilder, Glazkov, Martin, Ortiz, to come after Fury through mandatories or big money offers.