Wladmir klitschko vs buster mathis

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    The closest we got to seeing wladmir step outside his comfort zone and fight fast, slick boxers were byrd, chambers, and fury. Unfortunately, byrd had zero power and gave up a lot in the size and strength department. Fury fought a wladmir who was well past his prime and was utterly confused by such a big man who could move well and box.

    I think emmanuel stewart did a fine job fine tuning wlads style, but if were being honest it was designed for dealing with slow, plodding, chubby sluggers and muscle bound pressure fighters. With the average guy being over 230 lbs and matches becoming sloppy maul-and-clinch fests, he probably never saw a slick outboxer type emerging to challenge wladmir.

    Buster Mathis steps out a time machine and takes on wladmir in three scenarios:

    -pre emmanuel stewart
    -with stewart
    -the most recent era (fury/joshua fights)
     
  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Wlad, especially with Steward and even up until AJ, beats Mathis. Maybe stops him
     
  3. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It depends. Wlad's slow pace could end up working against him against Mathis. Mathis had a solid chin and did well against tall slow fighters. What Mathis was weak against was workrate that lighter athletic fighters would bring. If Mathis shows up between 225 to 240 he most likely knocks Wlad out, but if it's a 250+ Mathis Wlad outpoints him.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    Wlad would still have a fair reach advantage. Interesting concept but i think Wlad would be too good.

    Pre Stewart would be the best scenario for Buster. I'd favor Wlad but Buster wouldn't be without hope.

    I think the other two versions should be too good. Buster's best shot imo would be early. He had quick hands and a sneaky right hand and also slipped punches pretty well.

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  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Are you telling me he wasn't Leslie of Alex's father????
     
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  6. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    is this jnr or snr? Snr was dangerous, would be on to stop wladdie.

    Jnr would get outhustled by Wlad over 12.

    This is against prime wlad, early 30s, none other counts.
     
  7. Mendoza

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    Mis-match. Wlad in his prime is too much for Mathis
     
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  8. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no i think he meant snr.

    and he meant real wlad.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    Wlad, all day.
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    This seems like a pretty accurate breakdown. Frazier and even Ali had Mathis badly hurt in tbe late rounds due to him carrying too much blubbet and running out of energy.

    An in shape mathis might outhustle him, but expecting him to be in shape is like asking holyfield to avoid brawling--probably wont happen!

    8/10, i expect wlad to lose the early rounds confused by mathis' slipperyness and fast hands, maybe even gets dropped at some point, but eventually mathis starts wheezing around the 9th and wlad lands too many right hands and has him stumbling. Probably doesnt last too much longer after that, especially if wlad goes to the body.
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    solid but will confuse luis fernando having a fighter lose weight to become a better boxer.
     
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