Wladmir Klitschko vs. Jess Willard - 45 Rounds in Havana

I like the thread rez. This one's going to be very tough on wlad. Never going past the twelve, a fight of this duration will sap it out of him. He'll be in command in the early stages, working with the jab and right hand. He may even wobble jess a few occasions, but willard hangs on to wlad and prevent s him from following up. As it moves in to the 15 th its jess that seems to be doing the better work with the jab and a few uppercut s thrown in. By 20 both men are tired and feeling the heat but jess seems the more alert. In the 22 wlad is almost out on his feet when willard catches him with a overhand right, this puts wlad down near his corner. Wlad s team throw water at him as the ref counts. But the long gruelling fight has taken its toll and wlad is out.
Willard wko 22 klitschko

 

Agreed. Eventually Wlad would have let his hands go and we would have a fight.

 

The fight could be scheduled for 100 rounds. Wlad would crush him inside 8 very one-sided rounds. The athletic and skill gap just too enormous for Willard to overcome.

 

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Willard was big, strong and tough. That's all the good things that I can say about him.

Wlad has all the speed, footwork and technical advantages. And he hits harder. And he's stronger. And he has a world class jab and punch selection and balance and everything else.

Willard can do that goofy parry thing and leap in and out with his hands at his waist.

This would be an OMG galactic beatdown and Wlad would systematically take him to pieces.

 

Willard with his terrible defense and wide open stance would be too easy for Wlad to hit. A heavy bag like work out for Wlad, with a series of jabs and flush right land hand landed. Willard was not one to counter.

This one could be over inside four rounds, depending on how aggressive Wlad chooses to be.

 

Agreed. It would be like the Pulev fight but even less competitive

 

I just re-watched Willard / Johnson, in the event that I was overstating my case.

I was not. Willard is as awful as I remember him.

That is all.

 

I hate to imply any disrespect but both Willard and Johnson look horribly pedestrian and primitive in there. I'll make some concessions for Jack as he was long past it. But the way they both keep their hands low to almost waste level makes me cringe. The first thing they teach a 12 year old kid in a boxing gym these days is to keep his hands up.

 

Johnson often kept his hands low, even in his prime, that was his style then by him and many others. Watch video tape of Joe Gans, considered one of the first modern boxers. His hands were often low. That is how Johnson and others were taught. Even still, with hands low, he rarely got decked or hurt. His reflexes, agility and parrying were that good. I don't see is hands being low as an issue conserving, well, it wasn't an issue for him during his time. If he trained in modern techniques it likely wouldn't have been a low guard. The true sign of greatness is distinguishing yourself from others when the playing field is level. That is all you can do. Is Randy Moss faster, bigger, stronger than Raymond Berry? Sure he is, does that make him better? No, because there are so many variables that are different like Training Methods, Techniques, Defensive penalties were almost non existent. All these factors contribute to the difference in production and physical tools. Randy Moss established his greatness against his peer who all had access to similar accepted methods and rules. Same with Berry. Same thing here. Johnson speed, reflexes and agility, given modern technique and training... look out

 

Can you explain exactly what Wlad's advantages in athleticism and skills are?

They seem to be a vague concept that you never define!

 

Willard tears Wlad apart pretty fast.

 

Isn’t it funny how no fighter had the idea of lifting their hands up to protect themselves until the 1930s?

It must have been revolutionary when the penny finally dropped, though I am not sure who had the idea first!