Wladmir Klitschko vs. Jess Willard - 45 Rounds in Havana

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  1. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    No way Wlad goes 15 rounds much less 20 or 25. He nearly died going a lot less vs Brewster. Yes, he made it
    12 vs Fury but Fury was hardly putting a real beating on him.

    Pre-Stewart Wlad goes for the KO and ends it within 6 rounds. Post-Stewart Wlad stays away from Willard and hopes to
    jab himself to a boring 45 round decision, but he fades in the hot Havana sun in the 18th round, finally falling to the canvas while shielding his eyes from the bottles the Cubans are tossing into the ring.
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think this is a really likely scenario.

    What makes it interesting though, is what if Willard survives past the 12th?
    He's known to absorb damage. Johnson was landing in high volume, and he kept standing after the Dempsey beat down. Is Wlad the right kind of fighter to be able to apply that heat early on? He's had some impressive early and mid fight KO's, but he's also had frustrating moments working on putting people away. It's such a toss up the way I see it.

    I think the fact that it's a 45 rounder can really mix things up.
    I think many ATGs who are normally greater than Willard would find a 45 rounder with him to be a very dangerous fight. Can Wlad turn the heat up and take him out? We can't pretend that we didn't see Jess' durability and heart on display against an aggressive finisher like Dempsey.
     
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  3. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Wlad very quick and very easily.
     
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  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Willard didn't tear apart anyone of quality in quick manner. Gunboat Smith, who himself could get stopped by no-hopers, lasted 20 with Willard.

    But again, I do like hearing how one of the most refined heavies in history, who arguably had the second longest run at the top in the division's history, would meet a roadblock in some hay humper universally regarded as one of the poorest champs. Keep the laughs coming.
     
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  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yeah one very unlikely outcome is Willard taking him out early.
    Possible but very unlikely.

    To be fair, I see guys like Larry Holmes, Evander Holyfield and Muhammad Ali having trouble with this fight.
    I think Mike Tyson is the kryptonite for Havana Willard.

    You always kind of hint at Willards obscure background. Which it sort of was for a lineal HW champ.
    But he wasn't just some simple farmer. He was an entrepreneur with ambition, a natural athlete and track star, and had a reputation in his state for being bold and athletic.
     
  6. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Keeping hands low if you know what you are doing does not mean you are easy to hit. Some of the greatest boxers in history fought in that manner. Tunney, Loughran, Johnson and so many others.
     
  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How the hell did Fighters go 45 rounds in Willard's day?
     
  8. BCS8

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    I'm thinking that we need some gifs here. People obviously didn't go to refresh their memories on the "skills" exhibited by Willard.

    Nevermind the hands by the waist, and nevermind that Old Man Johnson makes him pay for that by landing on Willard several times as a result. Sergio Martinez, Willard ain't. Look at his footwork and how wide he keeps his feet. Zero lateral movement. No head movement, unless you call jerking your head back, head movement. Since when was leaping in and out like a fencer a smart boxing tactic? I guess guys like Roach, Hunter and Steward have a lot to learn, yes? :rolleyes: Look at the way he throws his punches. Vitali has been criticized for arm punching, but Willard has perfected the art. Some of those punches look like kung fu chain punching.

    The real catalyst of change into the modern era is imho Dempsey, who knew what he was doing, who knew how to generate power through torque, who knew what lateral movement was and why one should keep one's hands raised. We all saw what happened when a modern style boxer like Dempsey met Willard. And Dempsey was a midget compared to Wlad.

    JFC, anybody that genuinely (not Herol, or Dino, because we all know that they would pick their grammas over any Klitschko) thinks Willard has a chance vs Wladimir needs to refresh their memories and look at those clips. Look at Willard clips then look at Wlad. There should be no comparison as to who is superior.

    Or, try this.

    Imagine taking Willard, calling him Vitali, and pitching him against Lennox Lewis. How would that turn out? You think Willard makes it out of the first?

    I don't.