Wladmir Klitsckko not living up to potential

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by herbzg, Jul 3, 2010.


  1. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Now Farmy isn't part of the 1 out of 10 I was mentioning.

    He is firmly in the 9 out of 10.
     
  2. madballster

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  3. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    i respect wlad for what hes done but his fights are ****ing boring
     
  4. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    I would rephrase it: You get bored watching Wlad's fights. There's a huge difference there.
     
  5. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This pretty much sums up every post you've typed and your entire life on ESB! Lol. You dont write posts for fun yet you get the exact same reactions!

    Rushman has put me on his Ignore list so he won't actually see this.
    He'd prefer to put his head in the sand rather than properly discuss opinions that differ from his own.

    Ironically the fact he cant see this post has inevitably made me undertake childish posts like this.

    Id also like to take the opportunity to call him a **** who has no ****.
     
  6. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And why? ... because theyre boring. No difference. If you compare his best fights to the best of past champions, he does look boring. Im not even sure that is a matter of opinion.
     
  7. Reuben

    Reuben L.A.M.B Full Member

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    Discussing the Klitschkos is about as interesting as boiled paper.
     
  8. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    Why? Becauce nothing is boring... or exciting for that matter. It's an issue of personal and therefore subjective perception. See the difference? And yes, it is a matter of opinion too...
     
  9. Neverchair

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    Would you say I were right or wrong if I told you that terrorist attacks on innocent people in the US from fundamentalist religious groups were a good thing?

    Of course people often have different beliefs but some things are plain wrong arent they? Regardless of opinion.

    Are the Klitschkos boring? Some people may believe they aren't but a huge majority of people believe they are and, due to that fact, it is more likely to be true.
     
  10. tmsbry

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    Klitscho's need to fight eachother to be called ATG's,
     
  11. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not even a bout with each other would place either one of them in a credible ATG list.
     
  12. speck

    speck Milky Way Resident Full Member

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    The huge majority of people in your country believe that David Haye is the "propa" HW champion. According to your argumentation it is more likely to be true.

    I don't know why you brought up those terrorists here. But be sure there were huge crowds cheering on 9/11 in different countries around the world, because they might be terrorists for you and me but for them - those guys were martyrs and heroes.
     
  13. Neverchair

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    Agreed. Lets be honest, if they did fight each other there'd be no fire there.
    It would just be a glorified sparring match.

    Without fighting the other best fighter of your era though, youre never gonna get anywhere near the top of an atg list.
     
  14. Neverchair

    Neverchair Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're not quite getting the point.

    The only people who in the UK think Haye is the "proper" champ are those who are not boxing fans and dont follow the sport. According to HBO most Americans can't tell the Klitschkos apart. Does that make a majority?
    No.
    You have to look at things on a world level. Not restrict it to areas that are clearly going to be biased and not give a true representation of overall feeling.

    I mentioned terrorists as an example because although they have an opinion, it is clearly wrong. Otherwise Bin Laden wouldnt be one of the worlds most wanted men.

    Some things go beyond being just opinion.

    .... and "argumentation" is not a ****ing word!
     
  15. speck

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    Sorry man, but there's no such thing as an overall feeling and there are no clearly biased areas. That is - everybody's biased, that's what makes us humans. The moment when you point a finger and say that someone's biased you immediately imply that you yourself are not, the trouble begins.

    And opinions can't be wrong or right for that matter, they are just opinions - subjective statement based on the personal mind-view.

    And yes, "argumentation" is a word, you just weren't aware of its existence - this pretty much exemplifies your take on the world. Since you don't know something it MUST NOT be there.