Wlad's gameplan in a potential Fury rematch

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  1. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post Kratos.

    Hayden and the kid had something to do with it but not in the ways you describe, as there are plenty of married boxers out there with kids. Fury for one.

    My theory on Wlad's sub standard performance is that he has married your typical bypolar depressive crazy actress type. Most actresses are narcissistic and crazy- it comes with the territory, but Hayden suffered from post natal depression following the birth.

    This causes a great deal of stress to a man, causing him unable to fully focus on the fight and training. My betting is that his marriage only lasts another 3-4 years, just knowing what actresses and BPD women are generally like.

    The best thing Wlad can do is to dump the ho, who is riddled with STDs anyway as your typical promiscuous hollywood actress spinner and find a decent traditional women to have kids with.

    Back on topic.

    It affected Wlads performance, and unless he can get over that and adjust to it somehow he is going to stink the ring out against AJ too. I think its a 50-50 fight against AJ because I have no idea whether Wlad can adjust and fully focus again on the boxing.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Forget the bias, Klitschko is regressing. He is on the brink from the moment Manny past away. And his new coach is a joke of a coach.
    He can`t get Klitschko motivate, for god sake he can`t told Klitschko how to train. Klitschko train himself .....
    Speed, movement, reflexes, cardio, its not like they use to be. He rely so much more on clinches now, because hes workrate is not like before. He throw significantly less and land less.
    Its happen with all great fighter and not only with great footballers too and with great sprinters and with swimmers and so on ....
    Ali, Tyson, Foreman, Holyfield, Roy Jones and so on.
    No one can`t beat the father time. But i do think the Steward death increase the process.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad for a decade has fought one way and you can't expect fighters who fight in such a rigid and disciplined manner to suddenly change how they fight mid fight after a decade of drills instilling the muscle memory to perform a certain way. You can't unravel all the hard worked instinctive responses by just wanting to, which is why so many fighters in general are not that adaptable.

    Wlad as you say has always been very professional in terms of physical conditioning he was probably as good as he always was during his reign as champion. The real difference was the lack of a proper strategy to deal with the skill set Fury brought to this fight. Had Steward still been alive I'm sure he would have foreseen some of the problems Fury would have given Wlad and prepared him accordingly. Banks quite frankly isn't up to the job and Wlad has never been the smartest fighter in the ring he needed the smarts of Steward to do his thinking for him and since Stewards passing Wlad hadn't faced a fighter with the skill set to break the style Steward had created for him.

    Banks and Wlad have simply been maintaining what Steward had instilled in Wlad but they failed to recognize the problems Fury would pose with his height and movement. They also probably expected a less disciplined Fury who would give Wlad a chance to utilize his power what they didn't expect was Fury to out spoil the spoiler.
     
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  4. Robney

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    Trow punches this time around.

    If Fury actually comes back, and if there actually will be a rematch that he still owes Wlad.
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Shut up you stupid , stupid phucking MORON.

    Paris revealed she was pregnant with Tyson's third child on the morning of the fight.

    www.skysports.com/klitschko-vs-fury/news/33472/10081791/tyson-fury-says-he-is-to-be-a-dad-again-before-klitschko-bout

    A year before that she tragically had a miscarriage. And around the same time Tysons Uncle and original trainer passed away. That was the guys whose face was printed on Furys vest as he walked to the ring.

    All that bereavement and parentage just makes Furys win even greater than it already was. You didn't think about that , did you dummy?

    Fact is Wlad is and always was a mental weakling who was always terrified of a fight. The evidence is all there going back 10 years.
    He got slightly brave in the 12th partly because he knew he didn't have to come out for another round , but mainly because Tyson's trunks were falling down and he was reaching around to pull them back up.

    Your excuses are beyond pathetic. Why don't you send Wlad a love letter you sick joke.
     
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  6. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Poor , poor Wlad.. So why weren't you saying this was a possibility before the fight?
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    I doubt Wladimir would be interested in a Fury fight now, after wasting all that time this year.
     
  8. Robney

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    True. Anyone know what happened to the court case K2 prepared?
     
  9. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aj might take rounds 1 and 2 to see how bad Wlad is.. Wlad is not beating Aj, not now nor ever in history. The only way Wlad fights fury again is IF Wlad needs, (mentally needs to win) to retire on a W, he could fight fury if fury tries making a comeback.

    Fury is the ONLY name hw in the top 6 or even top 10 that Wlad could and would beat. The first fight was pathetic from both fighters and the rounds were also very close , about 9 were pretty even as not a single thing happened in those 9 rounds. Fury won two round convincingly , while Wlad won one round the most one sided round.

    People act like fury dominated Wlad, the facts are Wlad fought fury pretty even while being too hesitant to let his old hands go.

    Aj is going to show the world what a legit elite level hw does to a ex hw champ who wasn't ever on that elite level. Aj is going to leave him in a heap on the mat, I hate this fight for a 40 year old 6'5" 250 lb athlete..

    I fear for his brain
     
  10. KO KIDD

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    Agreed, could you imagine the **** wlad would take if manny was in his corner

    Banks and Co had no urgency. Almost afraid to upset the boss.

    In a rematch as a wlad fan i hope for 2 things, it was an off night the first time and fury comes in a little less disciplined. Wlad was champ for so long cause he was consistent, I've yet to see that from fury.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

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    Yep Manny would have been screaming at him to let his hands go, we saw him do so in the past with Lewis and Wlad when he was frustrated at how passive they were.

    I don't think it was an off night for Wlad, he's too professional to not have prepared to the best of his ability. But he didn't come in with a game plan beyond his normal style and that cost him. Wlad isn't going to win via his usual grab and jab style against Fury, Fury can get off first due to his height and movement and when that happens Wlad has nothing in his arsenal to respond with.

    Wlad isn't a counter puncher, he needs to learn to be because he will once again be beaten to the punch and needs to be able to counter Fury when he does punch. Wlad also needs to learn to move his head, his lack of head movement was fine when he was the bigger man but without the ability to slip in closer he'll forever be on the end of Fury's jab.

    Wlad's best chance in a rematch is Fury's inconsistency. I doubt we'll see the Fury that beat Wlad in the ring again, he's been too volatile, unmotivated and his weight so high. If the rematch does happen I see a more vulnerable Fury showing up, overweight, uninspired and Wlad only needs to land once cleanly and the fight could suddenly turn his way. Still won't be easy though.
     
  12. dinovelvet

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    Wlad got dominated. He didn't do chit but hug and run around the ring with his hands behind his head. You don't get to say both guys were pathetic cos your guy was a total embarrassment.
    Fury beat Wlad same same way Wlad beat Haye and the Kturds were calling that performance clinic despite the fact Haye out landed Wlad on power shots.
    Wlad won he most one sided round did he?? Which round was that? The round he was about to get knocked out in before Tony Weeks came running over to save him?
    Come on .. What round?. I know you're going to duck the question.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Manny would have most likely swerved the fight. You forget Wlad has 50 year long Kronk veteran and current Uslk trainer Ali Bashir in his team. He came straight out and said it was a 50/50 fight and told Wlad it would be one of his toughest tests to date. Wlad knew what he was in for but his inflated ego made him believe he was unbeatable.
     
  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't doubt a guy like Bashir is knowledgeable I just don't remember any urgency in the corner I don't know if the current team can get more out of wlad which is what needs to happen to beat fury
     
  15. Todd498

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    "I'll leave ya holding your fookin cheek."
     
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