Wlad's ko loss to Brewster = proof of glass jaw?

Wlad was totally gassed at the end of that fight...very strangely gassed. I'd say he was
poisoned...probably by the Russians. Let's not forget the Klits are Ukrainian nationalists.

 

No glass chin.
He was simply human.
Which sometimes surprised people.

Wlad had a combat upbringing.
He was a huge, athletic heavyweight.
He had a fantastic team.
He had very good technique for a big man.
He had an absolute thunderous punch.
He had championship spirit.

But he was also human.
Like Louis, Ali, Dempsey etc

 

Either way it's a revelation of how weak the size is king conversation is. If he's that tired after only 5rds it's shameful. He
showed no warriors heart because he looked like he wanted to quit when he was hurt, he seemed to be looking for a place too fall. Brewster like Sanders, and Purity was a good puncher, but definitely wasn't on the level of Tyson,Foreman,Louis,or Liston. And his skill level was journey man at best. A sad indicater of how bad heavyweight boxing has been the last 20 or so yrs.

 

At the time he left the sport, Wlad had controlled the heavyweight division for just about 8% of its entire existence under MDQ rules.

 

And what does that mean? In my opnion as I said earlier a true indicater of how bad, and especially at heavyweight boxing has been the last 20 yrs or so. With more knowledge and more ways to be successful boxing and now football is beginning to suffer from that realizations how truly dangerous the sport is. And how it could effect a person latter on in life . So people are reluctant to get involved or get their children involved in those sports. Meaning the talent you had 30-40 yrs ago you will not have today. Fighters like Joshua or Wilder who wouldn't be ranked yrs ago are championships caliber today . A sad but true indicater how far contact sports have fallen.

 

No, Brewster isn't enough to say Wlad has a weak chin. Wlad consistently losing by KO does.

When you get KO'd by multiple styles from multiple body types with various degrees of ability consistently you know you've no chin to depend on.

To be honest, I didn't think Wlad's chin was debatable. He used to get KO'd then he got a new trainer and made an adjustment around his soft chin and bingo jingo dude's HW champion for a decade. What's there to debate? Even Wlad knows Wlad's got no chin.

You can claim that gaining more defense has nothing to do with not having the ability to eat punches, but putting yourself in harm's way is a staple in most HW formulas. I can't think of any better present examples than Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury. They both employ a similar method for entirely different reasons. Wilder likes to play a cat and mouse game and focuses on a hit me I hit you back harder style game. Fury baits in a similar while focusing on a hit and don't be hit game. Both men like to use their position in the ring along with their size to posture in such a way they appear vulnerable in ordered to coax their opponents closer. Once the gap is filled Wilder won't do much but reposture while Fury will look to hit his incoming opponent, stepback, and pivot while hitting his opponent again. Wilder's going to wait for his guy to offer an opening that allows for enough leverage to try to KO the man. Often he gets his opportunities while his opponent is punching and does not have enough time to hit them and move. Though it was just Bermane, Wilder showing he can split the gloves at distance was pretty cool, but clearly not his norm.

My point is these guys fight pretty damn differently adhering to opposing mentalities in the sport. A points boxer and a KO boxer, both of them use a sort of posturing Wlad won't do because that makes him entirely too vulnerable and he will be KO'd. Fury doesn't need to worry about that because he's got more chin than Wlad, and Wilder doesn't worry about it because he too has more chin than Wlad. Neither really have that great a chin themselves, but Wlad is a HW with a chin he can't depend on, and they aren't.

Rez said he's just human, and that I agree with, he is just human.

 

A exhausted Benn was ko by a Michael Watson jab.
Nobody said that Benn ko loss to Watson = proof of glass chin.

 

This. Wlad used to fight at a high pace and tried to KO guys every time in his early days. When he couldn't bomb them out because their chins were that damn hard, he ended up gassing badly. I strongly suspect a case of lactic acidosis particularly in the Brewster fight. When that happens your entire body siezes up and there's f-all that you can do about it.

For another example of this: Shane Carwin vs Brock Lesnar. Carwin beat the holy hell out of Lesnar until his body cramped up and he basically folded. Note how muscular Carwin is. (Sorry about the godawful video quality)

This content is protected

There's a reason why Wlad was laughing at AJ's muscles ... he'd been down that road himself.

 

not a good chin, but not glass, that too much the other way.

On the one side, if it was glass, he'd have ended up a david price, not managing even eurolevel. So that cant be true.

Equally. its stupid to pretend that a guy whose style is built around surviving at all costs till the other guy is gassed out enough to ko, has some kind of iron chin. its simply not good, but not too bad.

he had tag team to bail him out of multiple losses to middlers anyway, that was way more effective than any of his skills or attributes.

 

LOL

Ali had a much better chin than Wlad.

Roger Mayweather is "human." Couldn't take a big punch well. Julio Ceasar Chavez is "human." He was a sponge. Yes, all boxers have different weaknesses. Being "human" does not have anything to do with how well a given fighter takes a punch.

 

that surely a lack of being able to use your chin effectively, which is part of chin.

 

presumably wlads only ukranian nationalist when getting his head kicked in by a midlevel American boxer.

 

LOL

Nice conspiracy theory.

Anyway, yes Wlad was tired when Brewster took him out.

But, Wlad had already proven his chin was vulnerable before the Brewster fight.

Corrie Sanders took him out in the second round.

Weak stamina cannot be used as an excuse for that loss.

It occurred in the second round and was about as definitive a KO you'll see without being a one punch stoppage.

 

My man Sanders was a beast!