Wlad's next opponent

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I forgot about Sergei but lately he's missing in action. A win over Sergei right now does very little for Wlad's legacy or pocket.
     
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    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Of those 2 choices I'd pick Valuev just for the freakshow factor.
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Did you write that rubbish on the front page? :yep

    Amazing how Austin is **** since Wlad did away with him so easily but it's also easily forgotton that he had a draw against current WBO champ Sultan.

    Same story with undefeated Calvin Brock.

    You guys are pathetic..........................:-(

    Did you ever think that maybe it's not that they're all so bad but maybe it's that Wlad is that good? Never entered your mind did it :yep
     
  4. kaygb

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    Evidently Ruskull, you think that todays crop of heavys is very good and Wlad is just "one of a kind" heavy that shines greatness. That's fine, not knocking it bu I disagree. I yhink the crop of heavys today are pathetic. If you were to grade the heavys today compared to the heavys from the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's what would they be going on an a, b, c, etc., etc., grading system. It seems to me that a lot of you grade Wlad so high is that you think the heavys today are great. Is that true? And do you think they are great because they are bigger? Or are they really just superior to the earlier fighters?
     
  5. barneyrub

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    Yes I know Austin was the Mandatory, but everyone knows it was a joke of a ranking by a joke of a sanctioning body. The champ needs to do better than then fighting a guy once that has been beaten since he last fought him and is hindered by a detatched retina. That doesnt bring redemption for a loss years earlier. If he wants to wipe that loss away he will have to beat the chagaev Ibragamov winner becaus ethe lineage of the Brewster victory over Wlad will be held by the winner of that fight. Until Wlad proves he is better than the man that beat the man who beat the man etc who beat him then that loss still affects his present status.
     
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    I think you will find that everybody thought it was a joke that Austin was ranked for a title fight before the fight took place.
     
  7. barneyrub

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    A win over Brewster or Austin didnt either. A win over Sanders today would do nothing for his legacy or bring redemption for that loss.
     
  8. barneyrub

    barneyrub Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he is going to defend the world title he shouldnt be doing so against hopeless opposition just because no one else is available, if he wants to fight them it shouldnt be sanctioned as a title fight, it brings the title into disrepute, a shot should be earned.
     
  9. Kamus

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    Let me get this clear, you don't think there is anyone that has earned the right to fight for Wladimir's title, so instead of fighting the best available competition you would rather have him not fight at all.
    Than when Wlad doesn't fight for awhile I'm going to read an article on how he's bringing the title into disrepute because he's not fighting.
    Great logic there no matter what Vlad does you can criticize him.
     
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    Wlad's trainer Emanuel Steward has been quoted that "Holyfield has fought himself into contention for a title shot". Follow the money, and the money is for him to fight Holyfield. Don't count the "old man" out to quick. I don't know if any of you Holyfield dissers watched his last fight against Savarese, but he looked pretty dam good, specially compared to the rest of that list of crap contenders for Wlad. Listen Holyfields too smart and crafty to go in there and get himself hurt. I remember before Holyfield fought Tyson the first time and the odds opened up at 25 to 1, and everyone said Holyfield would get killed. Well what happened? I think Wlad's a little over-rated. Me thinks Holyfield will show you.
     
  11. barneyrub

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    He was fighting saverese lol, its amazing, its probably the same people saying Holyfield deserves a shot that say Lewis only fought Holyfield because he was old [36] and his win doesnt mean anything.
    What respect will beating a 45 year old Holyfield bring for Wlad?
     
  12. barneyrub

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    He is in charge of his own promotional company so he could have sought out a fight with one of the guys but he didnt and let them tie up dates for fights elsewhere.
     
  13. Kamus

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    So he's responsible for the Maskaev Peter mess?
    Chagaev Ibragimov was signed before the Brewster fight, I guess you wanted him to take time off from training and negotiate for a unification fight with one of them.
    I wonder why you place unreasonable demands on Vlad, I would understand if there was some one he was ducking but there isn't.
    Your position comes from being a simple hater, and I'm glad your "article" appears in an electronic medium because otherwise it would be a waste of paper.
     
  14. Stinky gloves

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    Of course he is, he should give Peter rematch and leave Maskaev for his brother.
     
  15. 2smart4u

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    :lol: maybe you should refresh your memory over at YOUTUBE ! the glorifacation of the past is always bizzar ! :deal Ill refresh your memory if you like by reminding you of the KIDS HOLMS had to face or the one lung dude ALI had his signature win against or the fact that LEOn and BERBICK were champs ect ect !:hi: