Wlad's p4p ranking

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Jul 5, 2011.


  1. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huh? Please say that again?

    I thought I heard a compliment...
     
  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Props for honesty. :good
     
  3. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    That's not true at all. :nono

    Wlad vs. Brewster 1 was very exciting because Wlad was beating Lamon's ass & even knocked him down prior to getting stopped himself. That was a good fight even if there's questions as to what happened to Wlad. I also enjoyed Wlad vs. Brock, Thompson & Chris Byrd 2. Wlad vs. Austin was great & so was Wlad vs. Chambers.
     
  4. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well done hendo.
    Takes a big man to say that!:good
     
  5. Ponysmallhorse

    Ponysmallhorse Small but proud Full Member

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    I stopped arguing about p4p when I realized that everyone have their own definition.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    People shouldn't take "pound for pound" too seriously.

    People should also stop repeating the myth and false statement that the term was created for Sugar Ray Robinson.

    It was NOT!
     
  7. BoxingFan2010

    BoxingFan2010 Boxing Addict banned

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    Are you saying that is the first time in boxing that size ever meant anything. Look through the years and even when boxers were smaller overall it played a part!
     
  8. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too low. IMO he is No. 3
     
  9. JCC

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    Clearly you know nothing about motivation leading to divide boxing in different weight classes with the last one being without limit superior.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Nooo what i'm saying is, "is wlad's effective use of his size demonstrating enough skill that you'd say he's one of the 6 most skilled boxers in the world"
     
  11. AnotherFan

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    I usually thinks the same way about Packman. He looks skilled, but if he was not so fast he would not prevail. Dont think he deserves to be the number one, to be honest.

    And Wlad does not deserve to be ranked as one of the 6 most skilled boxers. Not only his size, but also his spead and power helps him getting away with poor abillity ....
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Interesting opinion. What does your top ten look like?
     
  13. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand your argumentation, but when a fella uses his size to his advantage, differing size and skill gets a bit tricky. How about people using their speed to their advantage, or their power? Is that pure skill?

    P4P is not only about skill. It is also about talent. And as a HW, beeing big is part of the talent. So your point fails, as I see it.
     
  14. AnotherFan

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    To go down than line, Froch is number one. No speed. Heavy hands but not that heavy. Poor reflexes. Not very clever (intelligence is not earned, you are born with it). He only has some toughness going for him. In other words no talent to speak of, but he still does well.

    BHop as number two. So old, but still going strong. He would be number one, where he not born with a slyness that gives him an unfair advantage.

    Ward as number three. Clearly skilled.

    Adamek as number four. Small, featherfisted, only has some speed going for him. Still doing well.

    After that it gets kind of hazy. I am a casul fan, to be honest, so I can only manage a top four.
     
  15. lufcrazy

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    I don't have a point, i've posed a question as to how people define p4p and where wlad fits in that definition.

    For me he's number 6. Behind pac, martinez, donaire, jmm and hopkins. If floyd beats ortiz and ward beats froch he'll drop down again to number 8.