Wlads Tough competion

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Bottomline there all pro boxers and the best out there.

 

The Klitschko brothers resumes suffer moreso because the best available competition refuses to fight them.

In the 90 and 00s for instance......
Ruiz, Valuev, Lewis(refused a rematch), and Tyson all turned down fights with the brothers. Tua can be added to that list, but he was proposed as a comeback fight for Wlad when he was no longer considered a top fighter, semi retired even. But Valuev and Ruiz were prime or semi prime and Tyson, well, most believed he would have KOd either Klitschko, but instead, Lewis got him, and he went on to self destruct.

This decade has seen multiple titlists and challengers refuse already and we are only in the 3rd year of the decade. Potvetkin, Haye(had to pull his teeth to get him in there), Valuev(still ducking, Vitali offered him 1.5 mil 6 months after Haye outpointed him), Dimitrenko, Fury(not ready), Helenius(not ready), and Arreola refuses to fight Wlad as of yet.

So, I think it's fair to say that the small slice of HW title pie that was still controlled by DK late last millenia and early through this one, has a lot to do with what appears to be lite competition. But his fighters have faded since Austin flopped, and I think the rest of this decade could be defined as the Klitschko dynasty, especially if Vitali is to retire before Wlad is ready to hang em up as well.:good

 

mhm, yeah. Lewis ducked the Klitschkos by beating one of them. great logic there.

 

You claim to be a Klitschko fan yet know nothing about them it seems.

Lewis was supposed to fight Wladimir, though Wladimir fell short against Sanders so he was immediately out of the equation. Lewis, however, fought Vitali in short notice and the rest is history. I'm a Klitschko fan too and you can say whatever you want about Lewis but he DID fight a Klitschko. Lewis ducks no one.

 

I'm personally glad Lewis didn't fight Wlad. He wasn't ready for Lewis, and likely would have been laid out faster against Lennox than he was vs Sanders.

However, if you re read my post, I clearly say that he avoided the rematch with Vitali.
The rest of the post is accurate, as team K2 and their promoters had been trying to make all those fights.

And if I recall correctly, Lewis was offered nearly 36 million to rematch Vitali.....so.......retire at 37 while leaving millions of your fans wanting or make a near career high payday, take a loss, claim you were too tired to fight anymore. retire with 36 million more bucks for your great great great grand children.

He's been quoted as saying Vitali was the better fighter in 03, so it's really no difference to him anyway. :deal

 

Louis was the linear legitimate champion for 11 years and defended 26 times. Wlad has only defended the linear legitimate title 3 times so far. Alphabet bull**** titles don't count.
He won the real heavyweight title after he beat Chagaev.

 

They just keep winning, which is amazing. I think if we go by competition and amount of it, Louis gets edge. What they are doing, especially considering it's a pair of brothers, is incredible, more than Manning Bros. Or Williams sisters.

 

I look at it in terms of consecutive defenses. Wlad will be on 11 after he stops Mormeck. For me 20 consecutive would be a great accomplishment.

 

In the 29 months from January 1939 through May 1941, Louis defended his title thirteen times, a frequency unmatched by any heavyweight champion since the end of the bare-knuckle era. The pace of his title defenses, combined with his convincing wins, earned Louis' opponents from this era the collective nickname "Bum of the Month Club".[21] Notables of this lambasted pantheon include:

World light-heavyweight champion John Henry Lewis who, attempting to move up a weight class, was knocked out in the first round by Louis on January 25, 1939.[64]

"Two Ton" Tony Galento, who was able to push Louis to the canvas in the third round of their bout on June 28, 1939, before letting his guard down and being knocked out in the fourth.[64]

Chilean Arturo Godoy, who Louis fought twice in 1940, on February 9 and June 20. Louis won the first bout by a decision, and the rematch by a knockout in the eighth round.[64]

Al McCoy, putative New England heavyweight champion, whose fight against Louis is probably best known for being the first heavyweight title bout held in Boston, Massachusetts (at the Boston Garden on December 16, 1940). The popular local challenger dodged his way around Louis before being unable to respond to the sixth-round bell.[64]

Clarence "Red" Burman, who pressed Louis for nearly five rounds at Madison Square Garden on January 31, 1941 before succumbing to a series of body blows.[64]

Gus Dorazio, of whom Louis remarked, "At least he tried," after being leveled by a short right hand in the second round at Philadelphia's Convention Hall on February 17.[64]

Abe Simon, who endured thirteen rounds of punishment before 18,908 at Olympia Stadium in Detroit on March 21 before referee Sam Hennessy declared a TKO.

Tony Musto, who, at 5'7½" and 198 pounds, was known as the "baby tank". Despite a unique crouching style, Musto was slowly worn down over eight and a half rounds in St. Louis on April 8.[64]

Buddy Baer (brother of former champion Max), who was leading the May 23, 1941, bout in Washington, D.C., until an eventual barrage by Louis, capped by a hit at the sixth round bell. Referee Arthur Donovan disqualified Baer before the beginning of the seventh round as a result of stalling by Baer's manager.[64]

Despite its derogatory nickname, most of the group were top-ten heavyweights.

 

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It's clear the 'Bum of the Month' Club was only called that because of how good Joe Louis was, and how easily he was beating everyone.

You could have thrown Ali/Foreman/Frazier in there - If they had lost too, they would also have been included in that 'Club'.

It was a retrospective 'tabloid' headline, as opposed to something with actual substande.

 

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You can't compare Wlad Klitschko and Joe Louis.

Wlad = 6 years on top, 10 title defenses.

Louis = 12 years on top, 25 title defenses.

Louis is far greater. He's my #2 heavyweight of all time. Wlad is my #10.

 

You just compared Wlad and Joe Louis.

 

Exactly. It is not Louis' fault that 5'7" 190lb Tony Musto made it into top 10 HW. Louis was fighting the best available opposition just like Wlad.