World Boxing Association Ratings

Senor Pepe may be able to enlighten you on the cause of the fire that destroyed all those WBA records (the illuminati I'm guessing).

I'm sure he's got a complete breakdown of all that.

 

I don't have the answers to your questions but IMO one thing is sure.
How the heck did Thad Spencer get ranked #1 in Dec. 67??
Fact: his biggest victory was the August 67 UD over a 'battle worn' Terrell.
Fact: look at his resume going into the WBA elimination tourney. What was his biggest win? NO ONE!
Fact: Quarry took him apart in the semi's!
Fact: after getting clocked against Quarry he was 0-7-1 the rest of his career!?
Sidebar: Had Patterson got the nod over Quarry in the tourney he would have bested Spencer and we would have seen an Ellis-Patterson bout in Oakland early 68 for the WBA title negating the Sweden scrap in September same year.
Oh the complexities of our great sport!
My $0.02

 

WBA rankings of the 1980s make nice toilet paper

 

I believe California had some form of weird scoring system that wasn't used in the rest of the Country....and JQ was a California popular fighter.

1967-10-28 : Floyd Patterson 195½ lbs lost to Jerry Quarry 195 lbs by MD in round 12 of 12

• Location: Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, USA
• Referee: Vern Bybee 6-6
• Judge: Lee Grossman 6-7
• Judge: Joey Lomas 6-7

• Elimination Tournament for WBA Heavyweight Title (Ellis-Martin/Bonavena-Mildenberger/Quarry-Patterson/Spencer-Terrell)
• Patterson down in the 2nd and the 4th

"Youthful Jerry Quarry scored an unpopular, 12 round majority decision over former champion Floyd Patterson Saturday and advanced to the semifinals of the WBA's tournament to find a successor to deposed titleholder Cassius Clay. The hard-punching 22 year old Quarry, 193, dropped Patterson, 32, with short rights to the head in the 2nd and 4th rounds. But he had to battle to hold his own in the late rounds as Patterson, 195, appeared to get stronger and take charge of the fiercely contested bout." -United Press International

Unofficial scorecards:

• UPI - 7-5 Patterson
• AP - 6-6 Draw
• Long Beach Press-Telegram - 7-5 Patterson
• Pasadena Star-News - Two writers covered the bout for the Star-News. Joe Hendrickson scored it 7-6 for Quarry and Don Pickard scored it 8-5 for Quarry.
• Los Angeles Times - Two writers covered the fight for the Times. Frank Finch scored it 7-6 for Quarry and John Hall scored it 7-6 for Patterson.

• Gate - $78,084.00 at the Olympic Auditorium and $17,164.00 on closed circuit at the L.A. Sports Arena (total $95,248.00 for the Olympic Boxing Club) plus $60,000 in TV monies.
• Purses - both fighters received a guarantee of $50,000.00

Post fight comments:

• "I think Quarry won because of his early lead. Patterson came up with a lot of motion in the fight, but he didn't throw enough punches. There was a day when Patterson threw punches. Now it's all motion." -Eddie Machen
• "I think I could knock out either one of 'em. I would have put pressure on Quarry. Patterson didn't put on enough pressure." -Joe Frazier
• "Floyd didn't hurt me in our first fight but he really rocked me with a hard right in the ninth today." -Jerry Quarry
• "I'm a slow starter. Those knockdowns were a matter of formality - but they hurt." -Floyd Patterson

 

Also, a nice pile of evidence of who was paying bribes back then.

 

Longhorn, the California system was really a simple system. 1 point for a winning round, 2 points if there was a knockdown, none for the loser of a round and none for an even round. An old west coast writer named Bill O'Neill summed up the California system to me by saying, "The California system used back then was exactly like the 10 point system used today...only less math." And he was absolutely correct. I transposed a few cards to the 10 point system and what he said was true. It really was a simple and solid scoring system.

 

Thanks for explaining the CA Scoring System.....I just remember those ABC TV Announcers having a hard time explaining it to the viewing audience.

 

Now if you want a real head-scratcher, there is the Australian 11 point system. Man, when I heard about this one - which was imported and employed in California during the 50s I believe - I just shook my head until finally figuring it out.