World Class "Journeyman" Fighters

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stopped Kirkland Laing with one punch as well. Guy could whack a bit.
     
  2. Hookie

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    Some were supposed to be something special due to good amateur careers or a few good wins early on but became journeymen. Some of these guys still were close to being world class.

    Larry Donald- I was never a fan of his but he was usually tough to beat and even tougher to look good against. He decisioned Jeremy Williams and stopped Bert Cooper in 7 prior to facing Bowe. He won about 1 or 2 rounds vs. Bowe but he proved he had a very good chin (he actually proved that when he took a bare knuckle shot from Bowe at the press conference). He beat Ahmed Abdin W12, Jose Ribalta KO6, Tyrell Biggs KO2, and Tim Witherspoon W12. He won 20 out of 20 rounds vs. Levi Billups and Ross Puritty just like a world class fighter should.

    He stopped Phil Jackson in 5 but had to settle for a draw vs. Obed Sullivan. He lost a somewhat close fight vs. Kirk Johnson. He was stopped in the 10th round vs. V. Klitschko in a WBA title eliminator (his only KO loss).

    He outboxed Holyfield over 12 rounds in 2004. He drew with Ray Austin in 2005. He lost a very close and somewhat questonable decision to Valuev in 2005. After almost a 2 year layoff he lost a lop-sided decision to Povetkin in his last pro fight.
     
  3. Legend X

    Legend X Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A guy with a 2-189-3 record is not a journeyman.
    He's a set-up.
    A tomato can.
    A stiff.
     
  4. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going back aways, a Journeyman was a guy who had a "Have Bag will Travel"
    mentality, Experianced fodder for young prospects to gain experiance with, often travelling overseas to their backyards and at short notice, Good Journeymen could sometimes spring an upset and look forward to a return decent payday for a revenge return Tom "the Bomb" Bethea had a few notable european escapades like this.

    A trailhorse was seen as similar to a journeyman, but not so willing to travel overseas, perhaps not quite having accepted the role of opponent and stepping stone.

    Many a Journeyman and Trailhorse may of started off as bright prospects in their own right but Like in Life itself...for whatever reason...Ambitions remain unfulfilled.
     
  5. Boxalot

    Boxalot Well-Known Member Full Member

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    First one that came to mind was Jimmy Young, although perhaps that's a bit harsh on him.

    More recently, Carlos Molina has a 'journeyman' record in terms of numbers but is a very capable fighter who bossed James Kirkland and Carlos Cintron, and fought the highly skilled Erislandy Lara to a draw which many felt he won.
     
  6. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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