Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

It's 2020 and you still can't see Wilder's career for what it's been. Bizarro world man. Bizarro world.

 

A 12-year pro career. 42 wins. 41 knockouts. 1 loss and 1 draw, both to the current World Champion.

Ten successful defenses of the WBC title, including one against the current world champ.

A five-year reign as WBC champ.

And he's fighting for the World title in his next outing.

Deontay Wilder has had a wonderful career.

The bizzarro part are the people on this board who insist it has been a terrible career and spend hours and hours and hurl insults at all of us who refuse to bash a guy who is clearly one of the top heavyweights on the planet and has put together an amazing run.

Whatever. Enjoy stewing in your hate for the guy. Maybe you'll come around someday.

 

I'm not stewing in hate for him you berk. You've just drank every last drop of Kool-Aid available and are unable to analyse his career numbers within the proper context.

You're deliberately ignoring the circumstances that have surrounded each step of his career which is why talking to you about him is a pointless task in all honesty. You know what's up but suspend your disbelief.

 

AJ chin been tested by Klitschko and Whyte who are massive punchers. Wilder was hurt and rocked badly by guys like Molina and Fury. The thing with Ruiz was that he clearly caught AJ on the mastoid bone affecting his equilibrium. That’s not the chin. Wilder was already hurt and on wobbly legs long before he was dropped by Fury so you can’t complain Wilder was only hurt from a temple shot like Joshua was as evidence he has a good chin. Face it man his chin ain’t good and it’s definitely inferior to Joshua’s. Klitschko’s right hand and Whyte’s left hook(which Joshua both took) would have put Wilder to sleep if he couldn’t even take Ortiz right hook or a left hook from Molina without going on roller skates.

 

Has to be AJ. Wilder recovers from Punches. Even the knock downs against Fury, he was up on his feet immediately. He just didn't have the skills to keep Fury off him. AJ cannot fight Wilder like Fury did because he knows if he gets hit by Wilder once, its over and AJ does not have Fury's boxing skills to implement the same fight plan.

 

Dillian Whyte isn't a massive puncher. He's stopped about half the guys he's fought.

Wlad had two knockouts in his last eight fights. He'd wound down, as most punchers do at the end, particularly when they're in their 40s.

Joshua's chin is fine. Wilder's is better. That's all.

 

Wilders comp has just been so low ranked for 40 odd fights,,,,,

Wilder didn't want to face Vlad, priced himself out of facing AJ, finally faced a top guy in Fury and gets beat twice and beat up in the second fight.

Never has a champ faced such poor opposition to get 40 plus wins that I can remember!!! Plus it was clear that the reason he faced such poor opposition and was moved so incredibly slowly along the way when compared to other past champs was because he was having such difficulty dealing with higher ranked guys and moving up at a relatively normal pace when compared to past champs.

Any single member of this forum that tries to deny Wilder took a slow and low ranked path to his trinket should be horsewhipped in front of our entire forum and then tarred and feathered.

 

And none of this has to do with their chins. Just you grousing about not liking Wilder and badmouthing people who like watching him fight.

Wilder has faced better competition than Joshua. And Wilder has been on the floor fewer times than Joshua.

Those are the facts.

Wilder has the better chin.

 

If you took a poll of who has faced better comp the reality of that poll would show AJ.

Do a poll if you think I'm incorrect.

The only guy Wilder has faced that is better than AJs top comp is Fury. As Fury drew with him and then beat him in those two fights your argument looses some reality right there.

 

Fury is better than anyone Joshua has faced. Wilder already fought him twice. Wilder successfully defended his title against Fury once (dropping him twice). Fury took the title from Wilder (dropping him twice). They are fighting their rubber match this year.

His fights with the Ortiz were exciting and ended in brutal KOs. Better than Joshua's fights with Parker or Povetkin, both of whom are still ranked below Ortiz.

He was the WBC champ for five years, he's knocked out everyone he's faced except Fury, who he dropped twice, and you're complaining on a "who has the better chin" thread about how long it took Wilder to get a title shot.

WTF? What about Joshua getting dropped four times and losing to a late sub who never knocked out anyone of note? Apparently, that isn't relevant.

But Wilder taking a long time to get a title shot, yet still knocking everyone out he fought, is what you're griping about?

This is a great time for the heavyweight division. Wilder is a key player in that. Enjoy the freaking moment.

The idea that you just dismiss Wilder as nothing is completely ludicrous.

Talk about missing the boat. You've missed it. Jesus. The blinders you have on have completely covered your eyes. You better take care of that.

Wilder is fighting the WORLD champ in his prime next. Joshua is fighting 40-year-old unranked Pulev.

Who gets dropped six times in their career first? Wilder, who has been down three times officially. Or Joshua, who has been down five already?

Do a "better chin" poll on that.

 

you just created more fiction, I never dismissed him as nothing. I said he had a good chin. Thus your argument just suffered a further loss of reality. You created fiction about me, blamed it on me, then called it ludicrous, told me I missed the boat and called out Jesus.

 

I think you were typing words like "never has someone faced such low-ranked opposition" and "tarred and feathered" when you were thinking about "good chin." LOL

I promised myself I wouldn't argue with crazies today.

Oh well, maybe tomorrow.

 

aj is more chinny. but the guys who stunned him are better then most guys wilder foughtht. whyte, wlad, povetkin, and ruiz all got some good licks on him. but aj throws hard and fast. and he leaves himself open for big shots. still aj a beast.

 

well for 40 plus fights he has faced the lowest ranked guys overall? Yes Fury is top ranked, but he was after 40 plus fights and that is very slow moving and facing low ranked comp before so that is fairly accurate and you could do a poll to prove me wrong?

as far as the tarred and feathered comment that was towards extreme Wilder fans not Wilder chin which I think is good or very good even.

I can see your confusion though so I understand.

 

Wilder took a more than a full round to recover from being buzzed by a lazy right hook from Ortiz. He was on wobbly legs long before being dropped by Fury. He literally can’t take a decent flush punch without his legs buckling a bit. Go watch what a weak puncher Molina did to him from just a barely flush left hook. No way does he have a better chin than AJ. Wilder never would have gotten up from the right hand AJ took from Klitschko. He wouldn’t have survived the punishment AJ took from Wlad in rounds 5 and 6.

And I disagree entirely. AJ punches in combinations and has a decent inside game with explosive power. He’s surely good enough to take away Wilders range and land some devastating combos. Wilder has terrible defence, low punch resistance and awful footwork. AJ would most likely stop him inside 4 or 5 rounds after a few knockdowns. If AJ ever gets Wilder in the same state Fury and Ortiz has him in then he doesn’t see the end of the round, he’d be brutally stopped.

I think Wilders ability to land the right hand is extremely overrated. He couldn’t do it against D level heavyweights until the championship rounds but people see the Breazeale fight and somehow think he’ll do the same to AJ. I think AJ will hurt and stop him long before Wilder can land anything flush.