Worse chin, Joshua or Wilder?

I know who I think is more likely to survive a bomb from the other.

 

That was a Dubblechin special. Bangs on and on in the thread about how many times Wilder has been dropped compared to Joshua in double the fights and then when it's pointed out to him that Wilder's rise through the ranks was a carefully managed path of least resistance in which his chin wouldn't have been tested as much then claim it's just an attack on Wilder and not linked to his mandible fortitude.

 

DEONTAY WILDER PROFESSIONAL FIGHT RECORD
Fight Nō - Opponent - Rank at Time of Fight
1 - Ethan Cox - Unranked
2 - Shannon Gray - Unranked
3 - Richard Green - Unranked
4 - Joseph Rabotte - 393rd
5 - Charles Brown - Unranked
6 - Kelsey Arnold - Unranked
7 - Travis Allen - Unranked
8 - Jerry Vaughn - Unranked
9 - Ty Cobb - 399th
10 - Alvaro Morales - Unranked
11 - Dustin Nichols - Unranked
12 - Shannon Caudle - Unranked
13 - Harold Sconiers - Unranked
14 - Dan Seehan - Unranked
15 - Deandrey Abron - Unranked
16 - Reggie Penna - Unranked
17 - Damon Reed - 304th
18 - D Alexander - Unranked
19 - Daniel Cota - 489th
20 - David Long - Unranked
21 - Marlon Hayes - 368th
22 - Jesse Oltmanns - 492nd
23 - Owen Beck - Unranked
24 - Kertson Manswell - 310th
25 - Damon McCreary - 357th
26 - Kevin Price - Unranked
27 - Matthew Greer - 325th
28 - Audley Harrison - 136th
29 - Siarhei Liakhovich - 43rd
30 - Nicolas Firtha - 121st
31 - Malik Scott - 86th
32 - Jason Gavern - 194th
33 - Bermaine Stiverne - 5th - Wins WBC World Title
34 - Eric Molina - 37th
35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th
36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th
37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th
41 - Tyson Fury - 4th - Draw
42 - Domonic Breazeale - 4th
43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th
44 - Tyson Fury - 1st - Lost by Knock Out losing WBC World Title
45 - Tyson Fury - WBC Heavyweight Champion - Scheduled

 

It's also absurd to claim with complete certainty one boxer has a better chin than another, when they have both been dropped and have fought at a similar level.

It's possible to say 'I believe X has a better chin than Y' but DribbleChin says with words of utter conviction and flying in the face of all the evidence 'Wilder has a better chin. Period' or words to that effect. It's absurd - when we're considering something that can't be objectively measured - and I just don't understand why anyone would submit themselves to another human being to such an extent they refuse to see any flaws in their subject of worship. Where's the self-respect?

For me, I feel AJ has shown himself to have marginally a better chin based on the opposition faced but is more likely to be knocked out cold by Wilder than the reverse.

But neither are going to be inducted to the Chin Hall of Fame...

 

latineg said:
If you took a poll of who has faced better comp the reality of that poll would show AJ.

Do a poll if you think I'm incorrect.

The only guy Wilder has faced that is better than AJs top comp is Fury. As Fury drew with him and then beat him in those two fights your argument looses some reality right there.

Like Latineg said, maybe a poll is needed both for who faced better competition and who had the better chin. My vote would be for DubbleAJ.

 

The Clan

DEONTAY WILDER PROFESSIONAL FIGHT RECORD
Fight Nō - Opponent - Rank at Time of Fight

1 - Ethan Cox - Unranked
2 - Shannon Gray - Unranked
3 - Richard Green - Unranked
4 - Joseph Rabotte - 393rd
5 - Charles Brown - Unranked
6 - Kelsey Arnold - Unranked
7 - Travis Allen - Unranked
8 - Jerry Vaughn - Unranked
9 - Ty Cobb - 399th
10 - Alvaro Morales - Unranked
11 - Dustin Nichols - Unranked
12 - Shannon Caudle - Unranked
13 - Harold Sconiers - Unranked
14 - Dan Seehan - Unranked
15 - Deandrey Abron - Unranked
16 - Reggie Penna - Unranked
17 - Damon Reed - 304th
18 - D Alexander - Unranked
19 - Daniel Cota - 489th
20 - David Long - Unranked
21 - Marlon Hayes - 368th
22 - Jesse Oltmanns - 492nd
23 - Owen Beck - Unranked
24 - Kertson Manswell - 310th
25 - Damon McCreary - 357th
26 - Kevin Price - Unranked
27 - Matthew Greer - 325th
28 - Audley Harrison - 136th
29 - Siarhei Liakhovich - 43rd
30 - Nicolas Firtha - 121st
31 - Malik Scott - 86th
32 - Jason Gavern - 194th
33 - Bermaine Stiverne - 5th - Wins WBC World Title
34 - Eric Molina - 37th
35 - Johan Duhaupas - 34th
36 - Artur Szpilka - 24th
37 - Chris Arreola - 43rd
38 - Gerald Washington - 41st
39 - Bermaine Stiverne - Unranked
40 - Luis Ortiz - 4th - Age 40?
41 - Tyson Fury - 4th - Draw
42 - Domonic Breazeale - 4th ???
43 - Luis Ortiz - 9th - Age 40 something
44 - Tyson Fury - 1st - Lost by Knock Out losing WBC World Title
45 - Tyson Fury - WBC Heavyweight Champion - Scheduled


Excellent work. But Breazeale ranked 4th? Where did you get these rankings from. Box rec? I think that is wrong. Breazeale was unranked by Ring Magazine when he fought Wilder.

To quote Hrgovic, " He was fat, he was slow, that's why he lost the way he did " , referring to Breazeale.

 

Worse chin, Wilder or the Bronze Bomber....

 

I originally had Breazeale at 16 based on a few sources but read an article about how Dylian Whyte was overlooked as mandatory (again) in favour of Breazeale. To make that look a little more palatable the WBC ranked Breazeale at 4th.

So, in order to avoid being accused of hating on Wilder I went with the WBC ranking rather than the 16th that other sources suggested.

 

latin beat the crap out of dripplechin above,

he ran out of here tarred and feathered with his tail between his legs for the love of god.

let that be a lesson to everyone on this forum that dares disagree with latin.

 

Joshua has taken some monster hits and survived. His problem in the past (not sure about today) was that he would freeze up every time he was hit with something big, and that would lay him open to being caught with follow up shots.

Wilder tends to go jelly legged when hit, but recovers quite quickly. Because of how thin he is he tends to react to single shots worse than Joshua and would I suspect not be able to take the same level of punch flush. However, glancing shots that might stun both men and less likely to be as serious for him as they are for Joshua.

If we're just rating on ability to take a shot I'd go with Joshua. Wilder seems to be able to take more punishment and still come back though. Fighters would need to employ different tactics to beat them.

 

16 is correct. WBC rankings do not count. Ring Magazine, and Box rec are much better.

 

They are both quitters, a much bigger problem than a bad chin.

 

Wilder's a quitter? Okay... dumbass.

 

It’s difficult to say in my opinion. Joshua has taken big shots and recovered ( apart from Ruiz 1 ).
Wilder has been rocked and recovered, albeit against generally weaker opponents ( apart from Fury 2 ).
Joshua obviously has the stronger physique to cope but is prone to gassing.
Wilder has a basketball player’s build, his weak legs let him down v Fury & he surely needs to address this.
I say Wilder has the weakest chin. But l wouldn’t bet on Joshua to win if they ever fought !!