Worse Chin: RJJ or Lennox Lewis?

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  1. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Both were the victim of 2 1-punch KO's/TKO's, with each man being counted out once and having the referee stop the fight once.

    RJJ's resume -
    ************ TKO'd in 2 by Tarver
    ************ KT
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    O in 9 by Johnson

    Lewis' resume -
    ************ TKO'd in 2 by McCall
    ************ KO'd in 5 by Rahman


    Each fighter has made concessions to allow for their non-granite mandibles: Lewis adopted the 'jab-and-grab' fighting strategy taught to him by Manny Steward, and RJJ went so far as to claim a moral victory that in his 3rd fight with Tarver (a fight which RJJ lost), he was not knocked out.

    But now it's chin -vs- chin, and you the fan has to decide for him- or herself: Whose chin is worse, RJJ's or LL's? Please vote in the poll as well as provide your written answer here.
     
  2. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I dont think RJ has a glass chin. He was caught with two direct shots to the Jaw. They werent weak punches he got hit with, those where solid. ANy1 would have went down from those. I mean I wont say RJ has the best chin in the world or anything like that. BUt china chin, IM not going to say that. Lennox on the other hand I still wouldnt say his chin is made of glass, as he too got hit with solid shots. But he seems more prone to go down than RJ IMO
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Neither has a glass chin in my opinion...tough question though.
     
  4. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    :good
     
  5. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    Lennox, he got smoked by one punch on 2 occasions while apparently in sparring Ruiz decked him. Jeremy Williams had him on the canvas multiple times in sparring too.
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's funny, it seems as though Lewis was more likely to get 'stung' (Bruno, Briggs, Mercer, Klitschko, ...) than was RJJ (only knocked down once before Tarver and GJ, I believe, and I don't think he was even hurt).

    But at the same time, if you did catch RJJ, it was all over.

    So it's like Lewis was more suceptible to getting hurt, but he also had the ability to come back from getting hurt better, or something. RJJ didn't get hurt as much, but when he did get hurt, it was over.

    Advantage: Lewis? (even though he got hurt more frequently)
     
  7. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz and Williams? I don't know how I didn't know that.

    Wow, that's sobering. It has to be Lewis, then.

    Thanks for that info, Y.O.S.
     
  8. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No doubt, LL is by far better at recovering from a punch than RJJ, who has shown exactly zero ability to do the same. You have to give LL credit for that.
     
  9. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    You really should put the hatorade down, Tarver was a very hard puncher with an 85% KO ratio when he landed a monster Haymaker on RJJ as for for the Johnson KO , RJJ was still shook up from the Tarver shot so he fought scared and Johnson kicked his ass for 7 or 8 rounds before the KO it was not a 1 punch KO it was a case of him breaking RJJ down for the KO as for Lewis he didn't have a glass jaw but he could be KO'd.
     
  10. jackiebrown

    jackiebrown Member Full Member

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    he's a boxrec hero .. hes got staaars in his eyyyes ...
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  11. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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    I hate to rain on your parade, but Williams judo threw Lewis down a few times, I've seen the footage, he didn't knock him down with punches. I think the Ruiz thing started as a Slopthrop joke as well, he used to run around saying Ruiz KO1, whenever people would say Lewis TKO6 :lol:
     
  12. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What hatorade? RJJ never really took a shot until he got in with Tarver, so I can't blame him for not being good at recovering from a shot like Lewis could.

    As chinny as Lennox was, he did get wobbled on many an occasion, and still was only stopped twice. RJJ only got hurt twice that I remember, and both times, as soon as he got hurt the fight was over.

    Unless you think Montell Griffin hurt him in their first fight, but I don't remember that. When Telesco (was it Telesco or Del Valle?) put RJJ on his butt, that wasn't jack, as far as I remember.

    So Lewis has to have the edge in 'recovering from being hurt,' while RJJ has the edge in 'not getting hurt,' IMO.
     
  13. Dekkers

    Dekkers Team Bergeron Full Member

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  14. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couple things from the first video:

    1. Nobody - NOBODY - I can remember at heavyweight was as good at holding and hitting as Lewis. He isn't quite at Hopkins' level, but he's up there. He got away with that as much as anyone (particularly of championship material) I can recall at the higher weights. Part of why he was probably so good at it was because of his size. For example, it would have been a lot harder for Mike Tyson to hold and hit when he has to reach over his head to do so.

    2. Tony "TNT" Tucker was a hard man, and a good fighter. Went the distance with both Tyson (prime) and Lewis. That guy was a rock, and probably would be a lot more well-known if not for Tyson.

    Ok, thanks Dekkers! I actually have to get back to work now. Real work. :(
     
  15. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    neither have glass chins