Worse Chin: RJJ or Lennox Lewis?

There was a clip of the sparring session between Williams and Lewis on the site a while back and from what I remember of it Williams basically tackled Lewis in frustration and was fired as a sparring partner for roughhousing.

 

Even in the Rahman loss Lewis was making his way off his knees when it was stopped, he was on his feet afterward unlike jones who was lying on the canvas for about 10 minutes after the Johnson loss.

Iron chin Lewis video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u4SQmxIP5Bk

 

McCall stopped current World Title Holder Maskaev in 1 round.

Rahman stopped prime Corrie Sanders quicker than it took for Vitali to stop a washed-up version of Sanders.

 

Jab and grab..... bull****.

Tell me which fights Lewis jabbed and grabbed?

How many of his fights have you seen at all, outside of McCall I and Rahman I ?

 

6-0-1. He'd very nearly lost to the great Scott LeDoux. It should be also noted that Spinks was high on painkillers (because of an opening in his ribcage) until the last few rounds, which he fought in searing pain.

Compared to losing to someone like that, being knocked out is almost not as bad.

 

All this debate about Lewis' chin pisses me off. I'm just bored with how stupid people actualy are. He was layed out twice by punches he ddin't see, against boxers he underestimated. To counter that, he took some seriously hard shots against one-punch knockout artists like Tua, Bruno, Klitschko, Tyson and then obviously hard punches from people like Holyfield.

There is far more strength behind saying Lewis had a fantastic chin, than a weak one.

 

True, and in Rahman-Sanders it was a punch stoppage rather than an exhaustion stoppage. Rahman unloaded a combination and Sanders just couldn't recover. Vitali just threw one-two's until Sanders started to hyperventilate like an asthmatic fat kid getting towel-whipped in the school changing rooms.

Rahman also knocked Sanders down, something which Vitali couldn't do.

 

I think he had an unreliable chin, which was a reflection of his mindset. Lewis doesn't have a focused mentality, which means that shots that he can take when he's concentrating and paying proper attention (as the famous "Lewis Had An Iron Chin" highlight reel shows) can spark him when he's not paying attention (in the McCall and Rahman fights).

Compare that to someone like Toney, who was always paying ample attention and seeing the punches before they landed. Toney has only ever been down due to balance; part of it's because he's got a naturally strong chin and good defense, but another part of it is that he's got this Buddhist monk-like focus in the ring, which is also why he's such a good counter-puncher. Larry Holmes is similar- I don't think Holmes had better punch resistance per se that Lewis, just a better mindset in the ring.

It's worthwhile remembering that everyone who went into a fight with Lewis with a strategy of "I've got to just land that one big punch" almost always lost, and usually got sparked themselves (Briggs, Tyson, Bruno) or humiliated (Holyfield, Tua).

 

I chose Lewis to have a the worse chin b/c he was a full fledged heavy weight. I honestly believe that Roy Jones KO's were mostly due to losing 25 lbs of solid muscle to drop back down to fight tarver and glen johnson. Lewis had no excuse. While the KO's of both were equally brutal, Lewis is worse b/c he was in his proper weight class at the time.

 

Both have glassy chins. Only that RJJ got exposed so much by not being clever to quit boxing right away like Lennox did, realizing his chin is being checked.

 

Glass Jaw Roy Jones and it ain't even close. When Glen Johnson KO's you for 8 minutes it means your Chin is made of 100% Grade A China!! Plus Lewis actually fought some heavy punchers, Glass Jaw Roy did nothing but avoid them his whole career.

 

Its not as if he didnt take many many hard shots in his 15 year pro career, its not as if all you had to do was land a shot and he would go down.

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