Worse scorecard u ever hear

I've got another table where the percentages were a little in favour of Holy but now I have no time to post it. However good job, man. We can compare them later.

 

I'm respectfully disagree.
That fight has nothing to do with Lewis - Holy, where Lewis clearly dominated, landed clean shots and was busier and the better fighter all around.

People also tend to forget that in rounds where Fury did okay, he still lost them 10-8, because of Wilder scoring 2x KD.
I have made a thread in the past with my scoring and explaining well why i think that wasn't a robbery and i even score the fight for Wilder in a very close fashion.

Again you are not suppose to give a fighter rounds, just because he is doing better than people expect him to be. And again if you watch the fight closely and examined it, you will see that Fury miss as much, and if not more than Wilder. And there was multiple rounds were Wilder land just a few shots partially, but Fury lands nothing, so what i'm suppose to give this rounds for Fury, for clowning around with his hands down and doing clown stuffs on the ring ?


We have agree on many topics with you before, but definitely not on this one. And i got no problem with you have Fury winning, but there is a no hell in million years this fight in any shape close to the Lewis - Holy robbery.


And you can see my post history and that i dislike Wilder and always though that he is a hype job and a terrible boxer.

 

Hatton - Sonni Martinez
I had Hatton losing every round

 

Ward vs Kovalev 1

 

Mayweather-Canelo was shocking as Floyd was a money fighter and the fight was virtually a shutout.

A lot of other robberies are no longer shocking. Ward-Kov, Canelo fights, Wilder-Fury, Joshua fights, etc. I expect it and am pretty good at guessing what the cards will be based on how the fight played out adjusted for star power.

 

I agree with you a lot.
But my argument isn't that how you score a fight is wrong, or how I score a fight is right. Your card of a close decision for Wilder is not really the issue for me. It's not the same things as the card Rochin turned in.

Think of it like a bell curve. If we plotted all the scores on this forum. Or all the scores given by the press. You are getting the majority position falling around Fury 114-112 Wilder. Let's call that a 0. Now this is very rough and going off memory:
Fury
116-109 -3 = an extreme [Fury fan] card
116-110 -2
115-111 -1
114-112 0 (Tapper)
113-113 +1 (Edwards)
112-114 +2
111-115 +3 (Rochin) = an extreme [Wilder fan] card
Wilder

There was one judge who fell down the middle (Tapper). Another judge who slightly favoured Wilder's work (Edwards). And then Rochin who submitted a card so awful even the LDBC would struggle to keep a straight face.

That's why it was a robbery for me, and why it brings back memories of Holyfield v Lewis. Notably in both fights it was again the British judge that scored it a draw. O'Connell in '99 and Edwards in '18.

 

119-110 Williams vs Martinez

 

Courtney Burton getting the decision vs Emanuel Augustus was the worst I've ever seen, but obviously not a huge fight.

 

Yeah 115-111 was bad one. I can see 2 point difference for any of them, but more than this is bad.
But Lewis - Holy was a clear, clear beatdown by Lewis. I can't believe to this day they dare to rob him like that.

 

The result WAS a draw

You said you had no problem with people scoring it a draw, right?

And it ended in a draw.

So how is the result a robbery?

You just don't like the one score for Wilder

But the result is the same whether he scored for Wilder by one point or if he scored it even, like the other judge.

Either way, two judges didn't think Fury won. And two judges didn't think Wilder won.

So it was a draw.

The result wasn't a robbery. You just didn't like how far ahead one judge had the defending champ.

But it didn't change the outcome.

 

Which Joshua fight was a robbery?

 

Pernell Whitaker vs Jose Luis Ramirez 1 = 1 judge had it 118-113 for Ramirez
Robin Reid vs Sven Ottke = 1 judge had it 117-112 for Ottke

 

that was a horrendous corrupt score card,
but I think the Draw that was awarded / gifted to Chávez Sr over “Sweet Pea” Whitaker has to be the worst for me.

I was there live & knew it was bull$hit & so did over 1/2 the Mexicans In attendance.

what makes it worse is that it wasn’t just one egregious card.
It was there final decision.

 

That was pretty bad.

But I think 115 -113 Holyfield over Lewis was worse (Eugenia Williams).

 

Stop raging, I explained myself clearly a few posts above