Worse titlists than Wilder post 1990?

PIRA · Jan 19, 2015

McGrain said: ↑

That's a fair question, i'll answer it.

1 - A fighter earning his spot at #1 before he gets a shot. Personal relationships taking nothing to do with the who gets a shot at what title, but rather a fighter boxing his way to the #1 slot rather than being given it.

2 - A "champion" capable of putting up a proper defence - for example, having the technical ability to cut off the ring (taught to swarmers, sluggers and box-punchers usually year 2 in any decent gym) and even being able to master feints and stuff like that. A worthy champion in other words (see 1 for why this often doesn't happen).

3 - A champion getting paid at least an equal share by virtue of the fact that he's the champion.

4 - Promotional responsibility whereby the status of the winner is acknowledged to be very much champion beta as opposed to implying that "the wait is over" and Stiverne/Wilder is some sort of real champion.

5 - Judging that reflects what actually happens in the ring

In a nutshell then, what concerned me last night was the lack of a challenger that has earned his spot, a champion that was physically capable of defending the title in a meaningful way, honest promotions, honest judging.

Far, far too much for a boxing fan to ever get (although a given in most other sports), but you did ask.
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:happy

Will never happen though. We have press conferences and agents who fight harder and more often than the fighters for a championship.

Unforgiven · Jan 19, 2015

Wilder's only had this one fight against a genuine contender so it's hard to assess how SH!T he is just yet.

He's better than Stiverne.

I'd say he'd have to prove himself sh!tter than Bruce Seldon before I credit him with being that bad .... and, on the other hand, there's no proof that he's any better than Ruiz, Maskaev, Valuev, Haye ... all of whom were truly sh!t.

Azzer85 · Jan 19, 2015

Unforgiven said: ↑

Wilder's only had this one fight against a genuine contender so it's hard to assess how SH!T he is just yet.

He's better than Stiverne.

I'd say he'd have to prove himself sh!tter than Bruce Seldon before I credit him with being that bad .... and, on the other hand, there's no proof that he's any better than Ruiz, Maskaev, Valuev, Haye ... all of whom were truly sh!t.
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in all honesty, Seldon did face Hipp, Tucker, Bowe and Tyson, so i guess Wilders resume that much better.

Azzer85 · Jan 19, 2015

lefthandlead said: ↑

Wow. Posted before I read your post. :good:good Don't mean to copy you.
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Its alright :good

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