Worst and most bizarre Boxing takes you've ever seen ?

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  1. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So, what are they ?

    I once stumbled across a guy on the internet that strongly believed in the notion that Floyd Mayweather is not a top 60 ATG. While I thought that the idea itself was already a major stretch, I could kinda see where he was coming from.

    He argued the classic case of Floyd's opposition being weak compared to most greats', and that he was mostly a quantity over quality type of fighter, with the odd 1 or 2 genuinely great wins. He then proceeded to name the 60 fighters he thought were greater than Floyd. Some choices were.....odd.....to say the least.

    Some of the men he picked included Randy Turpin, Marcel Cerdan, Beau Jack, Bobo Olson, Jake LaMotta, Tiger Flowers, literally every member of the Murderer's row, practically every great Heavyweight, as well as Elmer Ray of all people. Yes, that Elmer Ray, he argued that his wins over Charles and Walcott were enough to put him above Floyd :lol:

    So have at it, share the strangest takes you've ever seen.
     
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  2. Rubber Glove Sandwich

    Rubber Glove Sandwich A lot of people have pools Full Member

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    That Marciano knocks out Lewis in 3.
    Ricardo Lopez somehow ending up in the top 10 flyweight results in the survey Rummy did here.
    I've seen multiple p4p lists in youtube comment sections with Calzaghe as number 1.
    I've seen Locche called underrated so many times. How can someone be underrated if you can't go one second without seeing him called underrated? Wouldn't he just be rated by that point?
    Someone putting Donaire above Wilde at flyweight. (The list was not based on h2h btw)
     
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  3. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    That Max Schmeling hit about as hard as 1951 Joe Louis.
     
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  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That Aaron Pryor would have had a snowball's chance in hell of beating Leonard, and that Leonard ducked him. Both are idiotic claims. Fighting Pryor would have been cherry-picking for Leonard. Pryor was far too small.
     
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  5. clinikill

    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    A few years back I got into an argument on here with someone named "SerbianLoudmouth" who claimed that Frank Bruno was feather fisted. I am not joking.
     
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  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    That’s as logically sound as it gets. Well said.
     
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  7. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    One poster’s position was that Jim Jeffries ultimately didn’t avoid “defending” against Jack Johnson - because when he returned in 1910, Big Jimbo was “defending” his Lineal Title...oh, and the White Race too. :lol:
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Yet another “out to lunch” poster - who believes that Usyk will beat Fury and perhaps even stop him in the later rounds.

    Like, Hello McFly..is anybody home?

    Oops, that poster is actually me and this post doesn’t belong in Classic either. Very sneaky. :cool:
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    One poster, likely well known to many, repeatedly stated that Joe Louis was “low tech” and said he wouldn’t survive against the more “high tech” modern bunch.

    Joe Louis “low tech”? Can an “observation” re one of boxing’s most technical practitioners be any more absurd than that? Lol.
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    - Style advantages don't exist in boxing.
    - modern weight-making doesn't make a significant difference to the weight division a boxer belongs in
    - % of rounds won is the most important metric in determining greatness in boxing
    - a modern amateur with a handful of fights would defeat Sugar Ray Robinson, who was primitive
    - reading books is a stupid way to learn about boxing history
    - lighter, shorter fighters are actually bigger if their assumed "natural" weight is more


    All stuff form this forum.
     
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  11. Paul McB

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    I feel that way with all the Larry Holmes stuff I see on YouTube, FB etc. “most underrated Heavyweight ever”, when he’s consistently in most top five lists.
     
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  12. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amateur backgrounds mean nothing in boxing. That opinion has always been puzzling to me.
     
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  13. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    You’re not wrong Paul. It seems underrated is the new duly rated.
     
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  14. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Not the worst, but a very annoying and persistent one is that Rocky (or Floyd) is the best ever, and is unbeatable, for the sole reason that he was undefeated. It's ridiculous how common this rhetoric is
     
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  15. BoB Box

    BoB Box "Hey Adam! Wanna play Nintendo?" Full Member

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    Pedigree means more then you obviously know.
     
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