Stopped answering? I don’t think so, it’s just hard to get your shots off when you’ve been figured out. Evander and Douglas solved the puzzle and he ran out of options.
I agree, Mike just seemed really daunted by the jabs and uppercuts and went into that way-less-effective cautious mode. I think Mike stood a pretty good chance of stopping Lewis during his 87-89 form. Of course, Lewis was probably a better fighter from a ATG perspective.
I actually agree with you here. Tyson sustained a lot of punishment from Ruddock in both fights and it absolutely deserves a mention here imo.
People can interpret the term “beating” in different ways I guess. One way to view it is to measure the beating in absolute terms, - thereby putting aside return fire and/or competitiveness (or lack of same). Another way to look at it is as a beating in context - where the aforementioned features very much figure in the perception of a fighter having copped a so called beating or not. A good example might be The FOTC. Frazier and Ali both gave each other a brutal beating - it was not one sided either way. One sided beatings come off as worse due to the hopeless absorption of punishment - but hypothetically, in all possibility. a fighter might’ve taken more punishment in fights that he was, otherwise, competitive in. In absolute and contextual terms combined, I think the Douglas fight ticks both boxes as Mike’s worst beating - but the Lewis fight is definitely in the running imo and I wouldn’t argue too strongly against it.
Some people are counting the Holyfield fights as beatdowns. I disagree. These two were more or less even. Both kept up with each other all the way through except for round 10 when Tyson got wore out and Holyfield caught him with a big right hand. Beatdowns are like these, -Foreman vs Frazier -Golata vs Bowe -Wilder vs Stiverne 2 -Crawford vs Spence -Ray Leonard vs Floyd Sr Tyson got 2 such beatdowns in his career. One from Douglas and the other from Lewis. Both beatdowns were largely his own fault for not coming into the ring prepared.
Once Douglas and Holyfield had him moving/stumbling backwards he wasn't throwing anything, a stunned deer in the headlights, it's like Atlas always says he could never fight back and overcome in those difficult situations, and it was a situation he lacked experience in because for the majority of his career he never got near that point Even before the finish, when Holyfield almost takes him out in the round before, it reaches a point where he can't even guard effectively or clinch Holyfield is just teeing off on him This content is protected
Man, that straight right at :07 and the counter right at :16 are both brutal and beautiful. Holyfield really impressed in this fight, especially compared to the sh*tshow that was the Bobby Czyz fight.
I disagree with Atlas here. Both Ruddock fights prove otherwise. And if Tyson wasn't returning fire against Douglas or Holyfield it's because he was out on his feet.
Holyfield had attrition working for him too, there's that moment with Douglas where Tyson falls back on the ropes and answers with a wild left uppercut, if it had landed it would have done damage/possibly KO, but the jab and right he tries with Holyfield when he barely survives the round was noticeably lacking power and probably wouldn't have done much at all to stop Holyfield