Worst Boxing Advice?

i dont know if its the best of the worst advice for zab but it definitelt has to go to "ZAAAB you just gotta BOOM BOOM BAP BOOM BOP BAP...COMBINATIONS!!!!, "

 

excellent.

 

Lou Duva .. " If your legs are gone, dammitt fight him inside "

Advice to Tyrell Biggs after the heavyweight was stalked over 5 rounds by Mike Tyson and battered savagely until the philadelphian was almost at a standstill.. Tyrell was getting absolutely battered and looked so dispondent..

Standing and fighting Mike inside is not something i would advise anyone to do at the start of a fight when they are at thier freshest..

 

someone here mentioned graham telling hatton about forgeting about defense in the late rounds

 

Honorable mention:

Sdunek after the first round of Wlad - Sanders: Just asking "Are you OK", nothing more, no advice to jab, clinch, whatever. Totally unprepared corner.

 

I was going to mention this as the most recent example.

In the corner, before the round Hatton gets KTFO he told by Graham-

forget about defence.:deal

Hatton had lost the fight well before then anyway. But he would have been able to see out the fight for a wide points loss, which is more respectable.

 

Yea that was a good one. Another great quote from him:

''phkhhknjausd msajjtjm mnasejt ngbmfdm getjjj dkart wedfrdf jkarj''

 

You have to look at Manny's history as a trainer. He believes that understanding the psychology of his fighter can help them communicate better. We all know it wasn't true that Pavlik was "fadin fast", but put yourself in Jermain's shoes. You just get done fighting a really tough round, you are frustrated, scared, not sure what is going to happen in the fight, but your trainer tells you something reassuring. Often times fighters aren't doing what they need to do just because their head is in the wrong place. A little self confidence from someone telling you you're doing well can change that instantly.

And in reply to the comment about what Steward set about the pace of the fight, I think its pretty clear that Steward meant that Pavlik was not used to boxing at that pace, not just fighting. If you look at round one, it was clearly a boxing match. Both men are throwing bombs of course, but they were most definitely boxing. Think about um... De La Hoya/Mosley as opposed to Gatti/Ward. Its easy to say the slug fest was the tougher fight because of how much punishment both men absorbed, but the the DLH/Mosley was very hard too because its hard to BOX for twelve rounds at a fast pace. You have to be absolutely 100% present and focused on what you're doing. I have a feeling this is what Steward was referring to.

In Pavlik's previous fights he's never really BOXED with anyone at a high pace like that.

 

Have you ever seen Pavlik vs Zuniga??

 

No I haven't actually, please link me to a video to prove me wrong ;P

Though I believe you anyway, I just want to see more Pavlik fights.

 

yeah buddy just kept sayin the same thing
he was **** during the contender as well:deal :deal :deal :deal

 

This is a pretty good post, and you may be right about Manny trying to reassure JT. However, telling JT he's "fading fast" when Pavlik, who is one of the most dangerous punchers in the world today, was coming on like a ****ing freight train, is not a good idea! Pavlik's recent history, that is his record since the McKart fight, is that of a guy who looses some of the early rounds, establishes his jab, finds a home for the right hand, and closes the show in the middle rounds. In other words, when Pavlik was at his most dangerous Manny told JT "he's fading fast." Not to bright if you ask me. My advice to Taylor at that point would have been box and move, do not stand and trade with this guy. Get in and get out. When you're done punching either tie him up, or get the hell out of there. Given Taylor's history he probably wouldn't have listened, but that was his best shot at winning.

Pavlik will only loose to a smart boxer who has fast hands and enough power to buy Kelly's respect. Bronco McKart gave Pavlik hell for 4 rounds by being slick and cagey. McKart's career is well past the pull date, and at 160 he is 3-2 with both losses coming by knock out. My point in bringing it up is that when Kelly meets that type a fighter still in his prime, he may be in for a very long night, and at this point we do not know how Kelly will do when it is round 11 and the opponent is still game, and giving him hell. I personally think he will be okay under that type of pressure, but at this point we do not know that. From the outset JT should have been boxing to win a decision, not trying to score a KO.

Boo

 

Well I agree it wasn't the best of advice, I just don't buy the idea that Manny really did think he was "fading fast". Jermain doesn't really do what Steward tells him to do anyway, so that could play into it maybe? Who knows.

Keep in mind to, Taylor almost DID knock Pavlik out in the next round, so the advice almost paid off.

I agree with you about Pavlik btw. He seems like he can handle the pressure of a tough 12 round fight.

 

Floyd Sr. is pretty incoherent with his advice. "Look man.....Look man......you can knock him out.........look man..........look" i'd hate to have him in my corner.

 

I disagree with this totally.
Nothing more boring than a boxing match where one guy is just trying to survive.
You are there to win. At that stage of the fight, Hatton was not going to win on points. If he wanted to win...he needed something big.
The minute you stop trying to win....a wide points loss becomes LESS respectable than a knockout loss.