Worst chin among HW world champions?

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Who had the glassiest mandibles among HW champions?

  1. Herbie Hide

    12 vote(s)
    41.4%
  2. Tommy Morrison

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  3. Oleg Maskaev

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%
  4. Floyd Patterson

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  5. Bruce Seldon

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%
  6. Someone else

    5 vote(s)
    17.2%
  1. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    I disagree on Lewis going life and death against Mercer while having every possible advantage except of chin was a sign of him lacking heart. It's more like sign of his skills being somewhat overrated, but not heart.

    Sometimes he fought too cautiously, yes. Wlad did it even more times, but neither lacks heart IMO. They weren't Holyfield/Ali type of warriors but it would be dumb for them to be considering they didn't hace a fraction of chin Holyfield and Ali possessed.

    For me, biggest question mark on Lewis' heart/courage was him trying to get a corpse of Tyson in the ring AGAIN right after he pummeled him like a drum in 8 one-sided rounds. That's the lowest point of his career for me. Far, far worse than refusing to give Vitali rematch or his losses to McCall and Rahman
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    There's a bit of conjecture there.

    @Man_Machine posted this the other day and he's seldom wrong with facts -

    The idea that Lewis pursued Tyson for a rematch is a bit of a mischaracterization of the actual events.

    It should be remembered that it was Tyson who activated the rematch clause within days of their fight in June 2002.

    Lewis, at that point, wasn't even sure if he wanted to fight again but he was contractually obligated to do so, as a result of Tyson's demand.

    Plans were made, King interfered, Tyson reneged.

    The June 21st 2003 bill was originally a Lewis/Tyson Double-Header - but Tyson pulled out.

    Lewis taking Tyson and King to court was pure business and he was well within his rights to sue for damages.
     
  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Patterson was frequently dropped/hurt by fighters that weren't large enough to even qualify as HWs in Morrison's era. I seriously doubt Morrison would ever get dumped on his face from a single uppercut from the likes of Cut-n-Shoot Harris (who wasn't even a big puncher vs. LHWs or other CW-sized HWs) or that a single right hand from Ingo would leave him strolling around the ring in a daze.
     
  4. Totentanz.

    Totentanz. Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire banned Full Member

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    You might be right about Harris, but The Hammer of Thor was nothing to sneeze at. Look no further than Ingo's bout with Eddie Machen, where he iced him in a single round, a feat never replicated. Not by Liston, not by Patterson, and not by Frazier.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    It’s not Seldon. He put in hard rounds with Tucker.

    Moorer was pretty bad. Hide was worse.
     
  6. NoNeck

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    Moorer was much worse in the same era.
     
  7. Totentanz.

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    Moorer got knocked out by Foreman, Holyfield, and Tua, whereas Lewis got knocked out by McCall and Rahman.
    Not really comparable here.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    McCall knocked out Damiani, Seldon, Maskaev, and Akinwande.
    Rahman knocked out 41 out of 50 guys he beat.

    Lewis did not get knocked out by Holyfield or Tua in 36 rounds.

    Put down the pipe.
     
  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many guys did Rahman one-shot for a 10-count? Tua never landed a punch.
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    1. Yes
    2. False
     
  11. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wasn’t a literal comment on Lewis-Tua. Lewis controlled the fight start to finish & Tua was content for it to be that way. Why even bring up Rahman’s broader KO numbers if you immediately concede it’s immaterial data?
     
  12. NoNeck

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    I didn’t concede anything. If you’d like to pick through Rahman’s 40+ ko’s and figure out who he one shotted, that’s your business. He obviously punched hard.

    Tua landed occasional hooks and did fairly well for the first four rounds. You are lying about Lewis never tasting his power.
     
  13. Totentanz.

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    Did you just mention a bunch of glass chinners in defense of McCall? Jesus.
     
  14. Totentanz.

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    Lewis also heavy controlled the limited Tua, which Moorer wasn't able to due to his size. And Lewis faced an inferior Holyfield to the one that Moorer did.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Remind me who knocked out Akinwande and Damiani (other than the nose incident)?