Worst fighter who could beat Ali if he just kept rematching him over and over?

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s banned Full Member

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    You think Tex Cobb picks up where Foreman (2 months away from 1975) Frazier and Lyle failed?
     
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  2. michael mullen

    michael mullen Active Member Full Member

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    Either Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield or one of the Klitschkos.
     
  3. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Agree with @Glass City Cobra - in terms of attrition, Chuvalo is a good choice. George even learned to jab a bit more in their rematch - if we’re allowing learning curves, Ali might have to also deal with incremental improvements per fight on George’s part, LOL.

    What about ageless Archie Moore? Great fighter but not necessarily a legit HW so I’m moving down the weight line. Would a series of rematches shorten his own longevity or he would he remain on his Dorian Gray track (where did sinless Arch hide that painting anyway?) and eventually eclipse The Greatest?

    Otherwise, a long shot but no argument as to being the worst: Joe Grim. “I am Joe Grim , I fear no man on earth” - of course Ali was not born to earth at the time of Joe’s career - but I figure The Iron Man (aka the less flattering Human Punching Bag) would retain his stoic sentiment.
     
  4. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    Maybe our boi Johnny Risko. Tough aggressive fighter, amd picked up significant wins over a very long period of time.
     
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  5. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure we can assume that Ken Norton could get another win over Ali. I'm guessing that a motivated and somewhat in shape Andy Ruiz could catch a win along the line somewhere. Maybe Marvin Hart, with the right referee and judges? I'm pretty sure Sam Langford could sneak in a win somewhere in that series.
     
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  6. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    50 years of rematches will do that.
     
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  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  8. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    No way, Carl "The Truth" Williams was way worse than Jimmy Young.
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Most disagree, but I can see the argument made. I'm on the fence myself. In general, I think people here underrate Mike's chances.

    That said...

    My point was more aimed at a general Tysonesque strategy (find a fast starting aggressive puncher and hope for a home run), with Tyson a convenient example of the type.
     
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know this sounds completely bonkers, but considering Ali was a sucker for left hooks. And has been hurt by smaller fighters and almost KO'ed aka Henry Cooper. Could fighters like Morrison, Tua, Cooney, who were bigger and had very dangerous left hooks. Maybe do the unthinkable and go a step further and actually stop a Young Ali in 1 out of 10 fights ? considering a young Ali was more suspect to getting floored and hurt.
     
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  11. cross_trainer

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    It's certainly not bonkers; it goes along similar lines to my Tyson suggestion. And they both face the same limitation Tyson would: their primes end a lot sooner than Ali's, so they'd be racing their own clocks.
     
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  12. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Shannon Briggs. At some point a judge or three, would belive Briggs won the fight.

    Might take about 60 fights of course!
     
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  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    They would need to be even more crooked than Greggains was in the Johnson fight. I think Ali would rip Hart to shreds. I'd be shocked if Hart lasted the distance.
     
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  14. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tunney Hunsaker would probably get to him eventually.
     
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  15. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Muhammad, himself, would no doubt have agreed with you. And he would have become more convinced of how superior he was to Hart as the fights went on. Hart, in spite of his shortcomings, was not an easy stop, and I believe he'd make the 12 round distance often enough, even if it was due to Ali playing around some. Bad judging is very common in boxing. It only takes 2, on a given night, to get old Marvin a win. (I've seen weirder scores than 118-110 Ali, 115-113 Hart, 115-114 Hart.) In general, Ali fighting any elite Heavyweight 30 times in 10 years, and chances are he'll pick up a loss somewhere, somehow, someday (sounds like a song).