Worst HW champ H2H?

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  1. wibispo

    wibispo Brazil Full Member

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    Burns was a miniature Tyson. His small size was his greatest advantage, as can be seen in the descriptions of his fights in the newspapers. On video, he is one of the most "modern" fighters you can see, demolishing the opposition in a posture of offensive eruditeness. Tommy Burns is underrated and a much more complete and accomplished fighter than Briggs ever dreamed of being.
     
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    Well if that’s his peak that makes my case for me.
     
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    Yes, Burns was much more modern than his contemporaries, and he accomplished much more than Briggs, but he is not going to overcome that big of a weight advantage.
     
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    Patterson???
     
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    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you seriously arguing wobbling Lewis briefly warrants any semblance of credibility?
     
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    I made other points apart from that in my post.
     
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    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That’s true, but Briggs never showed more talent, grit, or skill than any of the guys you expect him to walk through. He’s bigger, but that comes with drawbacks as well as advantages.
     
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    I wouldn't say that George Parmentier or Ewart Potgieter would beat a top pre-1930 fighter, based solely on their size. I won't say Briggs would either.
     
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    That's true, I never said anything against it. How about you tell me how you think Briggs will lose to men like Burns, Jeffries, or Fitzsimmons?
     
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    I wouldn't say that either. And that's not what I said.
     
  11. wibispo

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    A sequence of blows to the belly, a punch to the chin in the first round, a solar plexus punch, in that order.

    Briggs wasn't even that big without PEDS, in his first fights he looks like a light-heavie or something.
     
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    That seems about right, though Briggs might beat Spinks I suppose.
     
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    We weren't talking about his first few fights though, are we?

    I think I'll save us some time and just agree to disagree.
     
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    What I meant was that if Briggs was transported to the 1890s/1900s, without PEDS, he would be the same size as Jeffries, plus the asthma and general lack of talent.
     
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    Not really in disagreement, I wasn’t making a completely blanket statement.
     
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