Worst managed fighters

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  1. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel Marvis Frazier being put in with Larry Holmes so early in his career could be considered poor management Marvis had a lot of skills and I believe could've been a very good cruiserweight and perhaps as he got older could've bulked up and grown into a much more effective heavyweight. in hindsight Putting him in with the young knockout kid Mike Tyson after he had already once before been KO'd in the first round might not have been wise either....
     
  2. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxing's wonderboy Nipper Pat Daly.

    His manager/trainer Professor Newton found a busy fighter, a good fighter. Daly fought over 100 times... before he turned 18.

    Daly was as talented as any athlete in history. He turned pro at 9, world-ranked at 16 (Top 10 bantamweight, The Ring). But Newton continually forced Daly back into the ring while working the boy from sunrise to sunset—sometimes on a diet that consisted of nothing but a cup of tea and half a piece of toast.

    It was his quick returns from brutal KOs at the hands of grown men like the underrated, great Seaman Tommy Watson that ultimately did Daly in. Dirt poor, Daly had no choice but to do as Newton said.

    Daly fell into depression before staging one last comeback without Newton in the last handful of fights of his career—but the same acumen and dexterity just wasn't there.

    He retired with a record of 99-11-8.

    He was aged just 17.
     
  3. Makingweight

    Makingweight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes totally agree,great Nipper Pat Daly gets a few mentions in this thread.

    Newton also cost Daly a dream world title shot and allowed his fighter to fight with concussion.

    Badly managed,burn't out at a tender age really good book on him by Alex Daley for those that may have missed it or unaware of a fascinating story.
     
  4. Makingweight

    Makingweight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tim Witherspoon was certainly taken to the cleaners with his contract which was carved up by DK and CK,ridiculously small purse after deductions for the Bruno fight especially.
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Ferguson was a full time drunk, he was his own worst enemy.
     
  6. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Come to think of it, Greg Page fit right in this category, once he went with Don King, it went downhill for him.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Garcia was protected for about as long as a prospect can be, until he finally started losing to the very journeyman level opponents he had been fed all along.. Nothing about being mismanaged there. He simply wasn't that good. David Reid became a world champion. David Reid became a world champion in only his 12th pro fight. Not something that too many fighters ever achieve with so few bouts. And Gerry ****ey got some of the biggest pay days that most men can only dream of and without having to risk much.. Oleg Maskaev is about the only one on your list that I'll agree with..
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Witherspoon had a good career but was also wasted potential. Of course part of his demise was just as much his own doing as it was anyone else's.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I think Alex Stewart could have been better managed.. Sure he got some undeserved pay days, but when you have a former olympian in your stable who also happens to be an unbeaten heavyweight prospect, and you can't get him in with anyone better than Dave Jaco or Arthel Lawhorne you're doing something wrong.
     
  10. the_bigunit

    the_bigunit Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The book is terrific.

    From what I remember, Newton found some bat**** way to be offended at Pat having to travel to America for the title shot (or something of the like). Just a greedy, imbecile that Newton. And he literally didn't give a single f*ck when poor Daly was battling serious depression.

    The beautiful part is Pat doesn't start wrestling if he kept boxing and it was during one of his shows that he met his wife IIRC.
     
  11. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyrell Biggs. No way he should've stepped in the ring with Mike Tyson that night. Another few months, he could've have given Tyson hell.
     
  12. 2piece

    2piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One of the worst beatings I've ever seen, it ranks with Duran vs Moore and Toney vs Barkley.
     
  13. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bob Foster early in his career. In his 10th pro fight he was thrown in with Doug Jones, in his 13th Mauro Mina in Peru, in his 17th 6'6" 200lb Ernie Terrell. It's a credit to Foster that he survived those early blips to become a great regardless.
     
  14. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well said sir
     
  15. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too many to list in all honesty.
    Every American fighter who had the mafia move in and leach of them.
    More recently Tim Witherspoon got flea f#cked by Don King and his family