Worst middleweights you'd pick to beat 2017 Golovkin?

Graziano would be owned by Golovkin, all he had was a right hand and GGG has a top chin . Rocky was much too easy to hit Gennady would beat him up. Graziano made his name beating up ex welters and winning one out of 3 against a past prime Zale.

 

Good call. He fits Toney well stylistically. His workrate would probably be the most difficult thing for James to deal. But he did like the guys who came to him.

 

If it takes Hagler and Monzon to beat Golovkin then that's high praise indeed. Those two were the kings of the MW division.

 

I would pick the same guys to beat him that I would have picked to beat him before his fight with Alvarez. I had Golovkin beating Alvarez 116-112 by the way.

Robinson, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns (if his chin holds up), Jones, Hopkins, and maybe a few others. I think Golovkin had the right style to defeat Monzon, Toney, McCallum, Duran, Nunn, LaMotta, Barkley, Benn, Eubank, and most of the others.

 

Monzon is a little overrated by most.

 

No he's not and Golovkin doesn't have the style to beat him either. Carlos beats him.

 

Always willing to learn. I'll do my research and get back to you on that. Just out of interest, where do you rank the two? I have them similar. Is that ridiculous?

 

Monzon... Greb...

 

That's what I was afraid of. Have you ever bothered to see Monzon-Briscoe ll? Monzon-Valdez l or ll? Those two fights should remind you how utterly ridiculous your opinion is.
I am a fan of GGG and I think he was robbed,...but it becomes readily apparent, more and more that Golovkin isn't in the company of the greatest middleweight champions of the past, especially Monzon. Golovkin would have been painfully exposed vs Monzon. He would have been kept at the end of one of the most effective long left jabs in boxing's history...he wouldn't have been able to do a thing but plod ahead...eating jabs and hooks as Briscoe was...and be out-generaled, tied up and rendered ineffective whenever Monzon chose to, out thought. Monzon would have controlled the tempo of the fight...and the steady jabbing would serve the purpose of setting his man up for the right. Monzon's means were relatively simple, but extremely effective...and no one fought tall and utilized their reach better than Carlos. He would have been able to take any of GGG's incoming fire ...like both Canelo and Jacobs were able to, I assure you, with the difference of being an established ATG who found a way to win every time out. I agree with Bodhi in that the second Valdez fight...actually both Valdez fights would be an accurate barometer of how he would have beaten Golovkin. Valdez was IMO a better 1 punch fighter than GGG and was equally as dangerous, yet Monzon conquered him twice.
And aside from Hagler, I can think of several middleweight champions of the past who were capable of either beating, or at least giving GGG hell,....Steele, LaMotta, Tiger, Giardello, Tiger, the focused, brilliant Emile Griffith of the first Tiger fight...and Gene Fullmer.

 

This is a bull**** criticism too...Monzon wasn't flashy for sure, but instead his methods were subtle and supremely effective. You modern day, post '90's newbies

 

Ridiculous.

 

To each their own but to me Monzon does not deserve all the credit he gets. He came around at the right time and he had a long unbeaten streak... that doesn't mean that he was the best ever.

Prior to Monzon winning the Middleweight World Title he fought in 13 fights that he did not win. He went 0-3-9 with 1 No-Contest in these fights. Prior to beating a past-prime Nino Benvenuti for the MW Title he had not fought very many notable fighters, the fact that he did not win 13 of these fights stands out. The best thing I can say about his pre-title resume is that he had a Draw with Bennie Briscoe.

Title run-

He beat Nino Benvenuti by stoppage twice. Nino was past-prime. He had actually been stopped in a non-title fight by the 9-5-1 Tom Bethea less than 8 months prior. Yes, he beat Bethea by stoppage in a rematch with the title on the line. He went 0-3 in his last 3 fights and two of those losses were vs. Monzon.

He beat the smaller and past-prime Emile Griffith. Griffith gave him hell. Monzon stopped Griffith late in the fight (first fight). The rematch was a very close 15 round fight.

He beat a past-prime and much smaller (Welterweight) Jose Naples by stoppage. Naples went 4-1 in his remaining fights.

Monzon struggled badly with Rodrigo Valdes in Monzon's last two fights.

He also beat Bennie Briscoe by decision in a rematch. He stopped the light punching and past-prime Denny Moyer. He stopped Tony Mundine and Tony Licata as well.

Not a bad career... but not the resume of the best Middleweight ever either.

 

How couldn't anyone meet "head on" and win? Lol. How and who has he proven this against?

 

I think that Fullmer would give him hell.