Worst middleweights you'd pick to beat 2017 Golovkin?

Monzon withstood much, much stiffer opposition than GGG. We are now seeing GGG struggle against good comp. Finally when he fights decent opponents. This happens. Mediocrity. No longer superman to everyone except his worshippers. Understandable we've all have been there with our heroes.

I personally believe Hagler stops both Jacobs and Canelo in 9 or less.

 

No one in the right mind thinks Golovkin has a superior resume to Monzon.

I don't get your mentality of having boxers as heroes. I keep it simple and root for the underdog every time.

 

Ok, anyway. It happens...... GGG was the underdog? When? Maybe I'm taking your comment out of context.

 

I think Golovkin has pretty much established himself as a great middleweight at least one of the best of his time. I think he poses a very tough challenge because of his power, skills and conditioning against any middleweight he faces still I think he is beatable. James Toney if he comes in ready which he generally did against top opposition at middleweight I think would beat Golovkin. It would be a great fight but Toney would rattle off combinations on Golovkin's head all night long and win a hard fought decision. I'd give Nunn a good chance and pick McCallum to beat Golovkin as well. BHOP would have a very good chance of beating him. Young Jermain Taylor on top of his game I wouldn't count out against GGG.

 

The moment Golovkin stepped up he struggled...........without the flash knock down Jacobs most likely wins the fight........IMO he is just a slightly more polished version of Vasilly Jirov...........so all over sudden after facing two A levels he is old and borderline shot , lol, put him in with any of his bums he usually fights he would look like a million bucks again.........

If Golovkin ever had the balls to step up to 168 against Ward his myth would have ended right there and then while getting pummeled from pillar to post from Ward.

 

Never in my memory, that's why I always root against him.

 

That's probably got more to do with how good Ward is than with how bad GGG is.

 

Well, one is only as good as ones opponent allows one to be. If your opponent is average or worse and you are good, you'll look good. If your opponent is great and you are good, well, you will look average. Happened all throughout history. That's why quality of opposition is so important when judging a fighter. If someone is looking amazing beating mostly bums and/or good fighters who are just stylistically made for him, well, that doesn't mean he would look the same against a great fighter. He might well get outclassed, see Barrera-Hamed.
So, yeah, it shows how good Ward is but it also would show how good GGG is not.

 

It would show Golovkin isn't as good as Ward but is it that such a revelation?

 

So guys like Danny Jacobs and Canelo could give GGG fits but top 3 MW of all time Monzon couldn't????????? OK.

 

Casual? Not me. I am almost 43 years old and have been obsessed with boxing my entire life. I am a ref, judge, timekeeper, trainer, and former fighter (not pro). I do consider Monzon an all-time great but I don't think he is a top 5 Middleweight. Sure, he has the title fight wins but so do Eubank and Calzaghe. Anyway...

You absolutely can use hindsight, you can look at things retrospectively. Naples was past-prime. Naples was not a threat at Middleweight or even Junior Middleweight. It doesn't matter what people thought of him at the time. Nino was past-prime. Griffith was a former Welterweight but he had been a MW champ... he was past-prime. Briscoe was a tough guy but not hard to find, perfect opponent for Monzon. Monzon was bigger and just as tough as Briscoe. He was also the better fighter... that makes for an entertaining fight.

Remember Michael Grant? He was hot shlt when Lennox Lewis fought him but in HINDSIGHT he was just a cold turd. A lot of people thought James Jeffries was going to beat Jack Johnson even though he had not fought in about 6 years. He was no match for Johnson and people should have seen that at the time of the fight. Some felt Sugar Ray Leonard was going to beat Hector Camacho even though he had not fought in over 6 years or won a fight in over 7. Camacho doesn't get much credit for that win (and he shouldn't) even though it helped to get him a fight with De La Hoya. You also have some people who act like Mayweather beat someone special when he beat a past-prime Gatti or Mosley...they should use a little hindsight.

 

Quite honestly, I think 2017 Golovkin would have his hands full with Reggie Johnson. I rate Johnson higher than Danny Jacobs for sure.

 

I would agree Napoles was not a threat to Monzon. Monzon was a sizable favourite and expected to win but there was a small undercurrent of thought that Monzon might have been a bit past it. Napoles wasn't a big welterweight (tho a great one) let alone middleweight. He actually came in under the junior middleweight limit at 153.

Napoles applied himself well considering his obvious disadvantages and you can see his obvious skills. He went hard early and had some decent success but Monzon's size told reasonably quickly. Napoles didn't have the weight behind his punches to bother Monzon much at all.

 

Monzon can give anyone fits.

 

He would do a lot more than just give them fits....