Worst P4p #1 Fighter Ever?

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  1. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Yep, whoops, started with the annual rankings at 1990, I knew Tyson was the first, which is why I started at 90, just forgot to put him on.
     
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  2. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Joe Rogan said that Jake Paul would beat him in a fist fight
     
  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Mosley was a great fighter. He dominated his natural division and moved up and defeated not only one of the best fighters in the world in Oscar but it's most popular under the big lights in a super fight. He stepped up. When an undefeated champion moves up and convincingly defeats the most famous fighter in the sports world in front of a huge worldwide audience he's a bit more than the insider's boy of choice. That said, since you're a true insider please elaborate on what really happened ... BTW, Also "who really killed JFK?" LOL
     
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  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    It was KO and World Boxing magazines that ran monthly pfp top 12s from the mid-80s onwards, not Ring - and Curry was briefly #1 in 1986. *



    * Although they first did a list early 1981 and Gomez was ranked 1st, but it didn't become monjtly until late 1984.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s 2017 Gennedy Golovkin. He wasn’t even number 1 at 160. His best win was narrowly beating Jacobs. Nothing in the following years vindicated his ranking.
     
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  6. jabber74

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    It would have been a dangerous fight for Norris whether he could have beaten him or not. In reference to Clancy's point, yes, a lot of the times that is the case, but not always. Norris did come back and outbox Simon Brown pretty impressively after being KO'ed the first time. Louis KO'ed Schmelling in the rematch, so there are exceptions. Depends on the fighter, his talent and his mental make-up.

    Norris was talented and could beat anyone, but I agree, he was too vulnerable to have been considered #1 back then.
     
  7. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Curry's fall was very baffling to me at the time. I was shocked when I heard he was beaten by Honeyghan, who I had never heard of. Curry was a fighter who was making it look easy, then all of a sudden it was all over. Then when McCallum put him out with one shot, I was even more shocked. Hard to know what goes on behind the scenes with these guys. I never saw the Jaquot fight...
    Also, I was never aware he had what looked like a tough fight, against a Korean fighter, and was even down in the fight, (that was before Curry began to emerge as a star)...

    I've read Curry had a ton of amateur fights and that's what burned him out early.
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    That should be a bannable offense.

    Just goes to show the devastation a good marketing team can do brainwashing the masses.
     
  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Even though I believe he was a great fighter, certainly well conditioned, a terrific chin, a very hard puncher ect maybe GGG ... just compared to other # 1 rated P4P guys ... a maybe
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    He was weight drained toward the end of 147 apparently and it likely manifested itself completely vs Honey who fought a great fight and was much better than most realised.
     
  11. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Well, Jimmy Wilde, Ricardo Lopez, Miguel Canto, for an old man Ivan Calderon, Eder Jofre, Fighting Harada, Wilfredo Gomez, Willie Pep, Salvador Sanchez, Eusebio Peroza, Sandy Saddler..all those guys were midgets (126 pounds or less at least at one point of their careers) and they all had incredible careers..
     
  12. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    Out of all those, Id say record-wise at least, it had to be De La Hoya..he was something like 39-6?

    Of course, records dont always tell the whole story, however.
     
  13. Mike_b

    Mike_b Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pound for pound, Carlos baldomir was the worst "fighter of the year" dubbed by ring magazine due to his victories over Arturo (the late great may he rest in peace) Gatti and Zab Judah. We've seen this dude starched by Canelo and outboxed by Floyd.
     
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    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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  15. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Yeah, numerically his record may not be that great but he beat a few of the guys on that list:

    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Pernell Whitaker
    Got robbed vs Shane Mosley

    Definitely nowhere near the worst on the list.
     
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