100%. I understand why both Dubois and BJS forfeited. Nothing wrong about that. You live to fight another day.
Manny Steward spilled the beans on this. Lewis wanted the rematch but both his mother and future wife told him to walk away from boxing. Lewis’ mother, who raised him on her own, has always been a huge influence on him and his future wife apparently told him that if he was not willing to give boxing up she would leave him. According to Stewart, Lewis was talking about a rematch against Klitschko even some two years after he retired but eventually reluctantly decided against it because of “the Violets” (interestingly, both his mother and wife are called Violet).
How about Vitali quitting against Byrd and then quitting the sport rather than fighting Hasim Rahman? Baaad look, lol.
This is the worst for me he took no punishment and he barely got touched with a flicked jab, he was ready to quit from the start and the whole team were in on it, it’s worse still as he knew it would be his last fight and he was happy to go out like that. Dreadful quit, never seen anyone quit who took less punishment
Most of the fighters and fights mentioned here the alleged quitter had took a decent beating or suffered physical damage and/or injury. But Danny Garcia took nothing at all last week against Lara, that is the worst quitter I have ever seen. I personally don’t like the theme of this thread as there is often a lot more going on than what we see in the ring, difficulties in camp, late replacements, changes in team personnel or changes in camp location. As professional fighters we often don’t hear about these issues as they are generally considered as excuses however valid. I would prefer to see a thread about the heart and desire that these warriors have shown. For example I think the recent fight between Derevyanchenko v Mbilli was as good a display of determination and desire against the odds that I can remember. Chenko had torn his bicep in the 4th round and was forced to fight with just one arm, and at times was unable to defend, but still managed to take a round or maybe two. He took an absolute battering and refused to quit.
I don't blame a fighter for bowing out - especially if he's taking a beating that could be detrimental to his career. So I pass no judgement here. All boxers do things I couldn't. However, in the spirit of the thread, these instantly came to mind: Duran v SRL 2 Freitas v Corrales Khan v Crawford McCall v Lewis 2 Vitali v Byrd (I know these last two are a bit brutal). Tyson v Holyfield 2 (?) I really for understand why AJ \ Ruiz is being discussed at all, when compared to even one or two of the examples cited above
Didn't even realize Garcia fought last week lol. And I don't even care that he lost or that Lara won. Both way past prime. Garcia naturally smaller. Garcia never been a great pure boxer going against a naturally bigger man although older at 41 was always going to be hell. Stuck on the end of a bigger better boxers attrition assault was never going to end well. I hope they both can retire with some money left over.
Yeah, and it was very disappointing he so readily surrendered his reputation for being an iron-chinned warrior who had never been stopped or dropped in his career.
He didn't know that at the time. He slated other boxers in the media previously about quitting. His coach came out and said publicly that Billy Joe quit in the corner (although he disputes this)
Surely he felt it though. Either way I don't blame him for ending the fight, though it is a very ironic and humbling moment for him.
Nicholas Walters against Lomachenko. Wasnt hurt, cut or injured he was just getting outclassed. Instead of digging deep and trying to find a way to slow Loma down or land some significant punches he just simply quit. Can't and won't ever respect that.