Would £5,000,000 be enough to coax Calzaghe out of retirement?

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  1. Westy78

    Westy78 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eubank was well pass his best and Calzaghe has always said that was his hardest fight. I think a prime Eubank would have beaten him
     
  2. Tom23

    Tom23 Active Member Full Member

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    but a prime JC would beat prime Eubank. gotta remember Joe was still pretty young when they fought.
     
  3. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe was very young winning a world title and Eubank was Joe's first world title fight.
     
  4. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe would beat Froch any day of the week and twice on a Sunday, Calzaghe was just a far better boxer than Froch, Calzaghe has a superb resume as well, Froch has losses, losses should count when judging a boxers record, most fans on here ignore losses but they count alright when evaluating a boxer.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Eubank might have been past his best (nowhere near as much as the haters try and make out, and I say that as someone who is both a huge fan of his and has followed his career since the early days, circa 1989 when he was fighting the likes of Ron Malek an co) but he was still extremely formidable and had plenty left in his tank both before and after he fought Joe as well - and I don't want to hear that he was weight drained when he fought Joe crap either because it's complete bollocks and I have plenty of proof to back that assertion up too). And let's not conveniently forget that Calzaghe was a very green bambino when he fought Eubank who hadn't mixed above domestic class nor been past eight rounds before. In fact, he'd only been past five on three occasions, one of which was against Eubank's cousin, whereas Eubank had been the full 12 round route on no fewer than sixteen occasions. So Calzaghe was not only having to make a gargantuan leap up in class when he fought Eubank but he was also having to do so over a distance that he hadn't come close to doing.

    Eubank turned up in excellent shape for that fight and the performance he put in would've been enough to secure victory against pretty much all but the top few elite fighters in his division around that time. People try to downplay that win because they don't like Joe, but the reality was it was a fantastic performance by a way pre prime extermely inexperienced and green Joe against a still very potent and formidable Eubank. They did exactly the same straight after the Hopkins' fight too, whom was immediately dismissed as older than Methuselah's grandfather and more shot than Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid after Joe beat him.

    And the reason Joe said it was his hardest fight is pretty self-explanatory. But I'll leave that for him to explain.

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  6. P4P-Ruler

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  7. MyName

    MyName Simon Adebisi Full Member

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    Have you seen him on the SMWs recent show?

    He's well out os shape and is what 41?42?

    Joe's done nd good for him.
     
  8. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Chris Eubank was in training to fight at 175 or 190, but he got the call up to fight Joe Calzaghe, with 2 weeks notice.

    Eubank did look on immense shape and fought like that aswell!
     
  9. dinovelvet

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    Eubank was shot to ****. Physically from all the wars and mentality after Collins drained his confidence.
     
  10. The_Sugar_Man

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    calzaghe has a superb resume ? WTF dude can you elaborate. :rofl
     
  11. Makingweight

    Makingweight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't really think £5m-£10m could bring JC back too long retired no way could he get anywhere near in shape to face Froch.
    Like other's have said he was struggling to make 168 back in the day his hands are smashed to bit's his sparring was minimal last years of his career.
    Would of been a great fight but doesn't need the money now.
     
  12. simmo

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    Even when Joe's hands went he still had the speed to get out of trouble, but that would likely be gone now and 12 rounds against Froch would just be a disaster waiting to happen.

    For how it would have looked in his prime, watch Froch v Ward and pretend Ward is Joe.
     
  13. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Calzaghe fought the likes of Eubank, Reid and Woodhall in England, Veit in Germany, Roy Jones and Hopkins in America all away from home in world title fights, Calzaghe beat loads of world champions, Calzaghe won every fight he ever had including unification fights against prime unbeaten champions in Lacy [who he ruined] and Kessler [in front of well over 50,000 people].
     
  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah I knew that. He was in training to fight undefeated banger Mark Prince at 175.

    Due to the difficulties Eubank had making 160 for the first Watson fight, where he cut too much weight in too short a space of time (19lbs in four days apparently), the British Boxing Board of Control said they were going to strictly monitor his weight in the lead up to that fight and there's no way they would've let him fight unless they were fully satisfied, although atberry (aka Eubank's biggest fan) claims that Eubank lied about his weight to them, which I have a hard time believing given atberry's close relationship with Eubank's bollocks and his constant blurring of fantasy and reality to prop Eubank up at every given opportunity. I do enjoy reading his posts though lol. The words ''strictly'' and ''monitoring'' sort of give the game away. Thing is, Joe himself looked ****ing huge at the press conference to announce that fight. I remember it well. He looked really thick set and it was plain to see he had a lot of weight to shift before the fight too.

    Regardless of whether there's any truth to that or not, there's absolutely no doubting Eubank was in excellent shape for that fight though and anyone who says otherwise either has an agenda against Calzaghe or is a clueless idiot. Calzaghe set an absolutely blistering pace from the get-go in that fight and was all over Eubank like a soup sandwich from first bell to last, offering him no let up or respite and throwing and taking copius amounts of seriously heavy leather in the process.

    Weight drained fighters, especially ones about whom it was common knowledge like to fight at their own pace and hated fighting southpaws, and who had absorbed heavy punishment from a much harder punching Calzaghe than the one of later years, cannot fight at the kind of electric pace Joe set that night. That pace was ridiculous even by Joe's lofty standards. :good
     
  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You seem to be labouring under a misapprehension that I'm too stupid to realize you're a troll and that I would bother wasting any of my time playing your silly little games. :good