Would 1990 Foreman have beaten the Tyson Douglas did

Depends how you look at it.

If it was the EXACT Tyson that didn't prepare for Douglas---say two minutes before the fight Douglas stepped out and Foreman took his place, then maybe.

But in a realistic setting, with Tyson being a keen boxing historian, I believe he would have prepared properly to beat a legend like Foreman. And he would have, no question.

 

Even if Tyson took Foreman as lightly as he did Douglas he would have battered old Foreman.

Douglas used speed and great lateral movement to beat Tyson. He clinched, he double jabbed, he used a variety of punches to keep Tyson working. Tyson was unable to land anything significant on Douglas for most of the night. He had his opportunity late in the fight and he dropped Douglas essentially proving what he was capable of doing if he had more openings. But Douglas had great endurance, a busy workrate and was constantly moving and sticking to his game plan.

1990 Foreman did not have the capability to employ this strategy. His hands were noticibly slower than Buster's and he was simply incapable of using the same kind of lateral movement that would ensure that he was out of harms way. Basically, he was there to be hit which is not exactly an advantage when facing Tyson. While his cross arm defense may keep him upright by softening the blows, his inability to fire back quickly would force him to beat Tyson by timing him and setting up traps.

Even if you don't like Tyson, you have to admit; he's not a guy that you KO with 1 punch. There needs to be an accumulation of punches that soften him up until he's ready for the taking. Remember Micheal Moorer whose chin is nowhere near as sturdy as Tyson's stood in front of George comfortably until Larry Merchant went to the extent of questioning if Foreman's power was a myth.

Bottom line is while anything is possible in boxing as it is in life, there are some things that are just not probable. There are simply far more plausible scenario's for a Tyson victory even if its by decision than a Foreman win which by all measure's is a longshot in the first place.

 

This is hard to say. Douglas of that fight is better than any version of the Comeback Foreman. Douglas also employed a strategy to beat Tyson that Foreman wouldn't/couldn't. Foreman would have to KO Tyson here as I feel Tyson would banking rounds based on workrate and agression. He wouldn't have the same head movement and good habits he had in the late 80's so I am inclined to say Foreman wins by late TKO/KO while behind on the cards. Tyson would be hit often here.

 

Post coma Douglas would have boxed Foremans ears off. Foreman was overated as some great fighter in his comeback. He looked like he was something against fighters who engaged him, but still lost against the better fighters. His comeback consisted of what that would make you think he could beat Tyson?
Tyson still had an excellent chin in the Douglas fight, and had some serious speed as well.
Douglas beat him by sticking a fast jab and righthand in his face and stepping off and boxing Tyson. Foreman would be coming forward with a decent jab, but little behind it that could land on even that version of Tyson.

Tyson by 12 round beatdown.

 

I am picking Foreman by knockout.

 

My god is old fatso foreman overrated. Foreman got his face torn apart in a gift decision against Alex Stewart. Tyson destroyed this same Stewart in 1 round in 1991.



Tyson would have demolished foreman in 1990 or 1991. It would have ended early and ugly. Foreman would have been down and OUT! sure foreman looked impossible to knockout, but so did a 37 year old larry holmes until he fought tyson. Tyson knocked holmes out cold..something no fighter came close doing in the 1990s. George Foreman would meet the same fate. Tyson of 1991 was simply way too fast and skilled for foreman and tyson had the punching power/finishing skills to put george out. Tyson showed in the holmes fight his style is made to destroy older slower fighters. And tyson was not the type of fighter you could take out with 1 punch.

 

You never stop hearing the myth about how Tyson was afraid of people who stood upto him...apart from spinks and bruno 2, which opponent was ever scared of Tyson????? he was one of the smallest heavys ever!!!!!! and he was supposed to be a bully?
DOuglas kicked his ass yes, but ffs he was unmotivated, out of shape, and out till 4 at night! and it sill took Buster 11 rounds...Tyson although out of shape kept trying until he was KTFO
Yes an old Foreman would have beat him, at any period after prison, before prison tyson would have beat old foreman. Tyson would never ever have beat a young foreman EVER....why you ask?
because the mastermind behind Tyson...Cus himself said so

 

ESB overrating Tyson and underrating Foreman. No surprise there.

 

Seldon and Stewart were intimidated. Holmes, for what it's worth, said in his autobiography that he was scared in the dressing room and felt like postponing the fight.

I've seen guys "stand up" to Tyson and get their ass kicked. It's just an exaggeration. Tyson was prone to frustration and impatience, but it takes a lot more than just a lack of fear to defeat him.

 

its possible. lyle had him down in their slugfest but the young foreman traded more then the old foreman

 

Its almost always the other way around.

 

No it's not. Tyson does far better at ESB then he does with most historians or anywhere else for that matter. Foreman is quite possibly the most underrated HW champ on ESB.