Would a prime Ali have knocked out Gassiev?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    A lot of people seem to think Gassiev can do well at heavyweight, but he has never taken a heavyweight punch, would a prime Ali have knocked him out pretty easily?
     
  2. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He couldn't even KO Norton, a feat that even Jose Luis Garcia managed.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    Smells like cabbage to me.
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Possibly, he stopped some great fighters
     
  5. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gassiev is iron chinned so I don't fancy many to knock him out.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Norton went the distance with Holmes, Gassiev has never been hit with the kind of power Holmes hit with.
     
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  7. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Gassiev is a tough guy but let’s see him fight a HW before making any historic predictions.
     
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  8. Cookiedough

    Cookiedough Active Member Full Member

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    With a prime Ali’s timing and speed, you couldn’t rule him knocking out anyone.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably not but we don't have the data yet. He is iron-chinned at cruiser.

    Gassiev is 28 wars old, crawling back into the game with fights against mid-level heavies like Wallisch and Rudenko, and building in a career as unified cruiserweight champ. When Joshua, Usyk, Fury and Wilder are gone in 2-3 years, he will be entering his second prime. He could very well be remembered as a technically limited but immensely talented near great or minor great like Norton, if he makes good.
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    His chin isn`t proven at heavyweight.
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    No, Muhammad Ali would have outpointed Gasslev, Ali at his peak, 1967, would have used his speed, footwork, stamina, and reflexes to his advantage. When Ali fought Ken Norton the three times, Ali was far past his peak years, 1973 and 1976. We never got to see Ali's prime years because of his legal issues with the Selective Service, he was stripped of his boxing license and title in 1967. Also peak Ali was not a puncher.
     
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  12. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Prime Ali is a CW, though
     
  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    No peak Ali was 212 lbs, todays heavies are bigger, Modern (Steroids) Nutrition. That is only today's made up standards.
     
  14. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    CWs usually weigh around 205-210 when in the ring. Ali wouldn’t be more than a few pounds bigger than CW Usyk or Dorticos.
     
  15. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dorticos punched harder than Holmes lol. If Holmes had power he would have been the goat.