Would a prime Mike Tyson style of fighting be ok for MMA?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Utter1, Feb 23, 2009.


  1. tri-pod

    tri-pod Guest

    you also have to consider how tyson trained. he was a monster in the gym and one would have to believe he would take the same time and hard work he learned boxing for the other aspects of MMA. he would become a generalist instead of a specialist. and a tyson that has ground game is a scary thing indeed.
     
  2. Primenal

    Primenal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps they could take down Mayweather...but I doubt they would make it that far. They come at Floyd (who is sideways), and he blasts them with a 5 punch combo before they even have the chance to grab him I don't think there taking him down after that...
    My JKD instructor would fight sideways, and he weighed was 5'10 170. I bet 9/10 in a street fight nobody could take him down. He turns sideways so he can fire a mule kick, but he also boxes like this to...Uses a lot of backfists though.
    I think Mike Tyson based on BOXING skills, and overall strength/ conditioning in an MMA fight wins 60% of fights with anybody around his size. I bet a trained MMA Mike Tyson wins 95% of fights with anybody around his size.
    Monstrous punch, amazingly quick/ agile, his conditioning was superb, and an all around FEROCIOUS fighter...and really his chin wasn't that bad.
    Look at how far somebody like Fedor makes it on only hands. Of course he's well rounded, but how many people has he not used that, and went straight hands mainly? Tim Sylvia, and Arloski. He knocked those big dudes out. Imagine what Tyson could do....
     
  3. québecwarrior

    québecwarrior Georges 'Rush' St-Pierre Full Member

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    Fedor by arm bar in 12 seconds. That easy That simple
    Fedor would throw him around like a ragdoll seriously.
     
  4. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh... oh no. I don't want to lead you on to much about Mike Tyson's potential...

    He doesn't stand a chance as he was as the HW champ. He only stands a chance at all if he crosstrains. If the Mike Tyson who fought in the 90s fought in MMA Lesnar, Couture, Mir... really any premier heavyweight would destroy him. The truth is, Fedor EARNED the right to beat those people with his hands by having an amazing clinch/ground game. You have to earn the right to stand in MMA, and there's no reason to think Tyson would stand a chance.

    Floyd blasts them with punches? It just... it doesn't work that way. Also, your JKD instructor probably doesn't fight professional mixed martial artists in a street fight. Mid-high level MMA fighters typically have pedigrees in wrestling, or Brazilian Ju Jitsu, or a Muy Thai or SOMETHING (if not many of those) that really make them a nightmare to deal with.

    Tyson could have been something in MMA if he had wanted to be an MMA fighter and trained to be one as hard as he trained to be a boxer. As they are, boxers don't really stand much of a chance against their MMA counterparts in an MMA fight.
     
  5. Utter1

    Utter1 Active Member Full Member

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    This isnt about who defeats who etc.

    Its about the technical aspect of his style.........could it work for MMA.

    I personally think it could, you would just have to be aware of kicks to the side and knees.
     
  6. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I mean... it COULD work if there was a lot more to back it up. No pure boxing style can work in MMA period.
     
  7. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No pure style at all really works. I mean there may be some exceptions but as a rule.
     
  8. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It does if your Mark Kerr or Royce Gracie.

    Not if youre a Karateka or Boxer.
     
  9. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The sport has evolved since the times when those guys were the top dogs.

    I'm not saying that they wouldn't be near the top but they wouldn't be the best. You just can't get away with being one-dimensional nowadays.
     
  10. Utter1

    Utter1 Active Member Full Member

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    Never said it as a pure aspect.

    Of course you need to develop Takedown defence, ground game (wrestling and submissions).

    Its weather his constant bobbing and weaving would work
     
  11. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can if you're Damien Maia, or Rousimar Palhares, or Mirko Cro Cop, or Brock Lesnar (the new Mark Kerr), or Mark Coleman. Its easy, youve just got to be really good at your thing, and impose it on the other guy - you can do this if youre Mark Kerr, not if youre a boxer.
     
  12. Grievesy

    Grievesy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Demian Maia has good wrestling imo. Same with Palhares. They adapt their BJJ to make it that much more effective.

    Cro Cop has some of the best takedown d in MMA. I think that's wrestling.

    Lesnar, ok only has wrestling but he is such a physical specimen that he can cancel out other people's advantages with his athleticism.

    And still, these guys are the exceptions not the rules and if you want to be the very best you have to be well rounded, for example Fedor, GSP, BJ, Anderson Silva, many of the top LHW you care to name.
     
  13. Cage Kennylz

    Cage Kennylz New Member Full Member

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    Personally, I think he would have to tweak his style a lot. But it could very well work. I think his aggressiveness and power could work.

    Although he would have to change his stance. Otherwise he will be taken down left and right.

    The most important things he would have to learn is: Any sort of Ground game, Takedown defense, a new stance, and a lot of BJJ to his game.

    Takedown defense would be huge for him. A good Sprawl would do him good.

    It worked for Liddell and Cro Cop.
     
  14. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But you are also discounting the fact that Cro Cop is a much better striker than Tyson. In an MMA fight it wouldn't be unlikely that he leg kicks the **** out of Tyson until Tyson falls over.

    Chuck was a fairly accomplished wrestler in his day. Bobbing and weaving is good for avoiding punches, but not necessarily good for avoiding leg kicks or takedowns. So, yes, it could be added to a more complete mixed martial arts game and put to some use.
     
  15. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't. Seriously, just no.

    lol

    Thats not what 'well rounded' means - Cro COp is one of the most one-dimensional fighters ever, but hjis one dimension was really, really good.

    Frank Shamrock is 'well rounded.'

    Nada.

    Maybe GSP. Anderson isn't 'well-rounded' - he would never be a good fighter using jiu jitsu. He's a striker. Of course everyone learns bits of other skills, thats not what ppl mean when they say well rounded though.