Would AJ have beaten Wilder in the amateurs?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Usyk boxed Joyce`s ears off in the amateurs just after he won gold at the olympics and would have completely outboxed AJ and Wilder in the amateurs.
     
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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Wilder was saved by the bell in his 13th fight. He's now fighting a top guy for HIM who was AJ's warm ups still as a NOVICE pro at fight 17.

    If you know HOW to calculate the difference in the actual abilities ,its painfully obvious how much further down the line AJ was ( even if his team isn't telling you ) . AJ would literally be running over guys like Molina STILL in 2013 ,give or take a rough spots within a 8 round fight .


    Wilder today is still not near skilled as AJ was even as an amateur. This is a FACT . Anyone foolish enough to really put money on Wilder now just doesn't studty fights, its real simple.

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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    AJ didn`t do any of te stuff on this study when he won Olympic gold:
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  4. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He would have got his clock cleaned fighting like that.

    Maybe Wilder defeats THIS AJ but that's about it. lol


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  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder and Joshua didn't fight in the same weight class as amateurs. Wilder fought in the heavyweight class - below 201 - the same as Usyk and Hunter and Beterbiev.

    Joshua fought in the super heavyweight class.

    It's funny, when Usyk, Hunter and Beterbiev turned pro, they decided to move down, dry out, weigh in and then rehydrate to 200+ pounds for their light heavyweight and cruiserweight fights.

    Wilder had the stones to move up, consistently fight bigger men and knock them all out.

    Now guys like Hunter and Usyk are being praised for finally stepping up. And Beterbiev is hyped as a monster and they should've all been heavyweights years ago.
     
  6. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Let`s see if Wilder has the stones to fight Usyk.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk should've been fighting heavyweights the day he turned pro. He was fighting super heavys in the World Series of Boxing. Then he turned pro and went down to cruiser.

    Usyk had like 380 amateur fights. Nearly all at heavyweight or super heavy (if you count the WSB).

    Then he turns pro as a cruiser. Same with Hunter. And Beterbiev wanted to fight even smaller guys, so he dries out to 175 then blows back up to 200 before he gets in the ring.

    Wilder fights in the same division as them as an amateur, had 30 amateur wins and turns pro as a heavyweight.

    He's already proved who has the stones in that group.

    I'm sure Usyk will "need tuneups" so he can "prepare" to fight the "bigger guys" ... even though he's already fought 300 of them before he turned pro.

    But Wilder will be there. And get no credit here for knocking Usyk's head off when he does because Usyk was a "cruiser" first.
     
  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    If he beats Usyk he`ll be the best heavyweight in the world, I would love to see it but Wilder will duck him.
     
  9. On The Money

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    Any news on Nistor going pro? Needs to do it soon.
     
  10. Dubblechin

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    All Usyk has to do is ask the WBC to grant him a fight with Wilder.

    As a WBC champ (at cruiserweight), Usyk can get one next.

    I'm sure Usyk has the phone number of the WBC. He's their champ.

    Usyk should give them a call. Maybe after his arm heals? That's probably preventing Usyk from dialing (you think)?

    Or maybe he needs some more heavyweight tuneups to go with the couple hundred he already had before he turned pro?

    Then again, it's not like Wilder is a big man. Wilder probably weighs less when he gets in the ring than Usyk does on fight nights.

    Usyk should give the WBC a call. They are the same people who sent him that belt he has over his shoulder. I'm sure someone on TEAM USYK has the digits.

    Usyk should call.