Would Ali and Frazier have been too good for Fury and Joshua?

Frazier would get absolutely annihilated. He was a blown up cruiserweight and just 5'11, you could even say that Ali was one as well. Ali is the same size as Usyk and Gassiev.

Frazier wasn't known for fast punches either. Against Joshua he'd face a repeat of the beating he got from Foreman.

Ali might have a chance with his fast footwork and handspeed but I wouldn't favour him. The 'monster' George Foreman he fought was 6'3 220lbs. Joshua and Fury are on another level in terms of size.

 

Forget about the size and just judge on ability.Ali and Frazier are a class above

 

Assuming that he adheres to contemporary training/diet/strength methodologies, Ali could conceivably carry an additional (and functional)15-20lb. His hands, feet, and mind are too nimble and educated for Fury or Joshua. In fact, I can see Ali breaking Joshua down physically, and perhaps more importantly, pyschologically and stopping the Brit late.

Fury, on the other hand, outpoints Frasier. Alternatively I (with some trepidation) think Joshus does as well, with the following caveat: if things aren't going his way early, he could very well wilt as the fight progresses against a junkyard dog like Frasier.

 

Yeah so canelo and pac should just move to hw then

 

Fury eats both of them then asks for a Foreman grill

 

You are being silly i am comparing heavyweights in terms of ability not size

 

I'm afraid Frazier would get dropped from Joshua's uppercut.

 

You can’t forget size, it’s a major advantage. There is a 70lb difference, 9” in height and the reach of fury over the hooker Frazier is ridiculous, he stands no chance. You see when fury turned it on with the 220lb wilder, he ragged him, imposed himself on the much smaller man and wilders tank emptied rapidly. This is a totally unfair size jump advantage that most mythical match ups don’t have. The fights such as Ali v Louis Tyson Frazier, foreman etc are fair enough. Jump up 50 60 70 lbs and them boys aren’t gonna last. If it was ability, Ray Robinson would’ve been Heavyweight champ

 

Without size they can’t show their true ability

 

AJ's uppercut is the most overrated punch is boxing history

The one he landed on Wlad whilst Wlad was trying to hug him was nice but again Wlad is useless inside.

Povetkin's uppercut on Whyte, now that's an uppercut.

 

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They aren't really. This is what American media would have you believe. Exalting all their fighters in a time when almost half of the relevant boxing world in the Soviet states and Cuba didn't even take part in professional boxing lol. Let's face it, they're not so skilled that they can overcome massive size differences easily, especially since the skill level isn't that far apart as you'd like to believe. If Ali couldn't legitimately beat Ken Norton who was very good but never elite then he wouldn't be beating AJ or Fury.

 

That's Frazier kryptonite though. It's hypothetical, NO one knows what would happen.