Would Ali be an ATG boxing against todays competition?

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High praise indeed...

 

If Corrie Sanders didnt like cake so much, he couldve beaten not 1 but 2 Klitchko brothers.

Ali would clean up.

 

atsch Its always the ones without avatars

 

props to the Klits but they're not to big to get away from a much faster more skilled boxer.

And past the two of them Ali would pretty much kill every heavey wieght there' been for the past several years.

 

Its a good argument really. If Ali was fighting today he would certainly be the best by a long shot, but a bunch of people would be saying he has only beaten a bunch of tomato cans and would get murdered against the ATGs of the 60s and 70s and such.

That being said, while the Klits are far from ATG status, they are pretty good, and if you put them up head to head against the ATGs im sure they would come away with at least a few Ws.

 

I believe Ali would school todays Heavyweights..

 

Wlad has a glass jaw....someone like Foreman would murder Wlad......but Vitali's a big guy with a tough beard, he'd fair pretty well....though Foreman would murder him too of course

though i believe they're A Class fighters in my book but..., they're just not ATG fighters....they dont have the skills to make a claim for ATG, honestly they mostly get by on size on alone....

i can see just about any decent size, prime ATG heavyweight doing away with both um.......Ali, Tyson, Holy, Lewis, Fraizer, Foreman, Bowe, Holmes, Liston

 

Neither could beat Ali in his prime, and I don't care how much they weighed.

 

I disagree wtih your assessment of the Klitschos' chances against the greatest in history. However, you make a valid point about whether Ali could have established himself if he hadn't had great and near-great competition against whom he could prove himself.

You are correct also in saying that the Klitschkos' are handicapped in that they don't have opponents like Foreman, Frazier and Norton to prove themselves against.

It's hard to go down in history without some kind of great, career-defining victories.

Even so, the best I would rate Vlad and Vitali is 20th to 30 on an all time basis. I don't think they could have survived against Ali, Louis, Tyson, Lewis, Holmes and Foreman.

 

Absolutely, without competition you can't be considered great and its not the fault of the current HW champions for their lack of competition.
But the argument is made on more points then just that, because divided between the two brothers are the attributes of 1 ATG boxer.

Wlad having possibly the biggest liabilities, lack of confidense, limited punch selection(my god, when he threw an uppercut against thomson we celebrated) and a suspect chin - AND no real competition to test himself against(except his brother, certainly beating valuev, chagaev, arreola or haye won't do it) and prove us wrong.

Vlad has longevity problems and also lacks speed in certain instances. Possibly his lack of credible competition is his only weakness and led to his loss to a long standing and veteran champion in Lewis, possibly because he'd never been against competition that good before and because Lewis was perhaps one of the top 10 ATG it's likely Vitali will never face someone that good again, although a win against Vitali could likely catapult someone into approaching ATG status.

 

He would dominate todays heavies... Not a doubt in my mind.