Would Ali have won the FOTC had he taken more tune up fights before?

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  1. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frazier would have killed ZAIRE Ali ,,,
     
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  2. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't see that.
     
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  3. ThatOne

    ThatOne Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why didn't he kill him in their rematch which was nine months earlier or their rubber match which was twelve months later?
     
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  4. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    well because :eusa_whistle:
     
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  5. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    When I saw the Bonavena fight, I just thought Bonavena gave him a good fight lol I didnt think it was Ali not being sharp. To my credit, I was only 12 and wasnt thinking about body rust, not practicing, etc. I barely knew that people got old lol..but credit to the Argentine who did give it his all.
     
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  6. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I will say that another fight, depending on the opponent, may have actually made it easier for Frazier to win.

    Depending on how long the other fight went, that's 5 or 6 or 10 more rounds of punishment to Ali's body. And those years were the golden era of the Heavyweights, when
     
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  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    That's what I think. That was Joe Frazier's night, the night of his life. If you asked him about that night, I expect that he would say that he felt great all day, felt like he couldn't lose, that he felt like he could fight forever, that those 15 rounds felt like they lasted 15 seconds, and that he wishes they could have fought 15 more. Because he knew he would never feel that way again.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nor me. 'Zaire Ali' was better than 'FOTC Ali' in my opinon. He'd lost no more speed in the three and a half years between bouts,was sharper and in better condition. And most importantly by the time of the latter bout,Muhammad had learned how to compensate for the slight loss of speed and workrate picked uo during his 1967-70 exile.

    As for the topic of the post - I think that Muhammad would have still had to lose to Joe before he beat him in future bouts.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was referring to the 1971 version of Frazier, who in my opinion beats any version of Ali
     
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