Would any Calzaghe nuthuggers like to tell me something about Mikkel Kessler?

Hmmm, Kessler is a pretty good fighter and Joe is better one from what I have seen. Could the critics point out who is better if these two are so average?

 

Why insult me?

When Joe was compiling his hugely impressive KO record what exactly was his results record??

You stupid twat. Great boxers aren't born with a massive KO percentage. They have to earn it. And that's exactly what Joe did.

 

Lol those two guys are anything but average. With Kessler your talking about one of the most feared and avoided fighters in ther world. With Clazaghe, your talking at least about the greatest SM of all ime.

 

I hate Mundine but anyone who brings up the Ottke KO some 7-8yrs after it happened isn't really a boxing purist. It's obvious that fight was a big learning curve for Mundine after 16 months as a pro and no AM background.

P.S MUNDINE V KESSLER WAS A VERY GOOD FIGHT.....not a schooling

 

Excellent point.

Kessler does not belong in the top 25 P4P, whereas many Calzaghe nuthuggers are pushing him into the top 12. atsch

 

atsch

 

Your counter-arguement is just devastating :hi:

 

Kessler is a POOR MANS Calzaghe:yep, JC beat him rather easily, Kessler is fair, nothing special, that sucked that he backed out against Miranda:-( J Taylor would beat him, Pavlik and Hopkins would have a field day with him, even Abraham would beat him...
Who was the best fighter Kessler has beaten???? i rest my case..

 

Insult you? You mean you did know the level of comp he fought in getting those twenty-two wins (twenty-one KOs/TKOs) and you are impressed?

Then you'll love this guy. Pretty similar. He was an early KO ARTIST too.

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=19904&cat=boxer

Joe is a KO artist power puncher if every other fighter is Swen Ottke. Outside of that, he isn't a power puncher of any sort. Never was.

 

The most feared and avoided fighter in their world. Okay. The world of Denmark.

The greatest SMW statement is a joke. One of the top two hundred fighters of all time based upon results (not comp) works.

 

I'm no nuthugger, but IMHO the wins over Siaca, Beyer, Lucas, Mundine and Andrade with the absolute dominating way he won them and the fact his only loss was to the p4p #3 make him worthy of a ranking around #15-20 p4p.

 

[QUOTE="TKO";3474737]I'm no nuthugger, but IMHO the wins over Siaca, Beyer, Lucas, Mundine and Andrade with the absolute dominating way he won them and the fact his only loss was to the p4p #3 make him worthy of a ranking around #15-20 p4p.[/QUOTE]
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He might deserve to sneak into a 20. Maybe. I wouldn't argue if people didn't put him there, though. I think all his fans realise he needs better fights, its sad whats happening.

 

Head to head Kessler matches up quite well with anyone in his division. Taylor's hand speed might give him fits, but other than that I really don't see anybody else at 168 giving him much trouble.

Bute would get beat up on his way to a pretty wide UD loss.

And Frochatsch

 

He actually has a pretty overlooked resume. Of course definitely not P4P top10 material (the resume), but just an interesting thought: people were ready to put Lacy in the top10 with or without fighting Calzaghe, as he dominated and knocked out competition. And what a weak competition that was. So if Kessler was American, he might have entered the Calzaghe fight with with a P4P9-10 ranking, undeservingly I might add. But think The Ring and Williams or Caballero. His run was very decent.

Siaca: top5 fighter in division. Blowout.
Lucas: top10 guy, dominating victory.
Mundine: top5 when they fought, top3 later (WBA champ), underrated fighter. Clear although hard fought decision.
Andrade: top10 guy at the time, top5 now, should be IBF champion (Bute controversy, please no comment on that), Lacy-like domination.
Beyer: top3 fighter at the time, reigning 3-time WBC champ. KO in 2.

So he entered a Calzaghe fight with a very good resume, just not vs. internationally/in the US well known opponents, but legitimate top3-5 guys. Actually, he couldn't have fought better competition, what the division offered, and that's the most important, he fought. Then came the great performance vs. Calzaghe which would've been enough to beat anyone from MW to LHW, but Calzaghe put on magic you can rarely see.

Since then, Kessler did little, his fault or not. Sartison is pretty solid, but totally unknown, Haussler as a mandatory is a bad joke, but what can you do. The thing is: if you do a P4P list based on competition and performances, Kessler dominated the SMW competition badly, and put on a great performance vs. Calzaghe, so somewhere in the P4P 11 to 20, he has a solid place. But he's moving nowhere (or down) with recent competition. He should leave Palle as soon as possible.

 

Exactly right.

Nobody is holding these up as grade A wins, but at the same time people act like he fought nothing other than bums. These are all top 10 guys that are relevent to the division - or were in a few cases. Kessler dominated these guys, home and away.