Would Anyone Here Pick Michael Moorer over...

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Any established great Light Heavyweights?

    Spinks, Tunney, Charles, Moore, Foster...?

    What about the second tier fighters like Qawi, Michalczewski, Glen Johnson, Maxim?

    I hear so much about what he didn't do at light heavyweight, but was that a result of him ducking or being ducked?

    Supposedly Charles William's, Andries and Hill wanted no part of him where as Moorer would of unified the titles if he was given a chance?

    I wouldn't of favored any of those three title holders who were active when Moorer was over him, personally.

    Wasn't involved in the sport during that time, so anyone who was, it'd be good to hear what the case really was.
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Also, does anyone find Moorer's power scary?

    He physically moved Foreman around the ring when he connected solidly with his southpaw jabs. And when he hit guys at light heavy their legs just went, like their strings had been cut.

    Not a lot of fighters can do that.
     
  3. Vantage_West

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    spinks and foster i would give him a decent enough chance.
    qawi and dm i think would of been a bit too much for him.

    kinda depends on the opponant than if there achievements.


    the real problem of talking about moorer at 174 is that it's hard to tell how good he really was. his opponants were legitamate and contenders but if it wasnt him who beat them then some one else would of down the line.

    personally he looked real good. truely world class. i also should of gone to 190 becuase he was still a bit too small for a outboxing slick 6'2er. it was more about him being a ambidextrous doublehanded southpaw that made him able to walk you on a hook and be just as comfrotable to throw a sweet left if you didnt sucumb.

    i think he would of had problems against hill
    but andries style seemed to me, built for him to look good against. williams was a bit luke warm and could either be really good in one fight or be really brass in an other.


    yeah moorers power is real scary. had all the punches and had a good technical eye aswell. as i siad he was also pretty free with letting his hands go so if one punches didnt get you then another was set. he was also formidasble at going foreward or backward. foreman was taking a battering
     
  4. My2Sense

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    It's hard to rate Moorer as a light-heavy. He simply wasn't tested against enough good competition there. He certainly looked like an animal, but he showed some possible weaknesses as well.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

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  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Same here, I Agree...
    IMO, MM just don't have the ability to take a great shot.
     
  7. Minotauro

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    He has a punchers chance but I don't think much else not battle tested enough at the weight to favour over the greats.
     
  8. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah man.Moorer was scary At Lightheavyweight.Probably the best puncher ever at the weight.He was suited for Lt Heavy or criser.People seem to have forgotten about Moorer its a shame
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    The best puncher ever at LHW? Based on what? He feasted on second rate fighters, some of which exposed flaws in his style and limitations. He certainly can't be rated over the likes of Foster, Spinks, Saad Muhammad, Moore, or even Charles in terms of power IMO. It was more or less his only real asset at the weight aside from the southpaw jab, so it tends to get overrated IMO. He's actually overrated by most who speak on him in the General Forum at least.
     
  10. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Based on the fact that he had a short dominating run Knocking out every one of his oppoenents at Lt Heavy.Defending The wbo strap what was it 8 times? It was an even more pointless title back then,notheless still impressive.Noticed I used the word Probably..Thats off of what i have seen of him..
     
  11. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's not as accomplished of a puncher as the ones you said.But in terms of power he was right there with them.
     
  12. rekcutnevets

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    I believe that Moorer did have scary power heavyweight. Moorer's list of victims at 175 may be less than impressive, but he carried power at heavyweight like no other light heavyweight in modern history.

    Michael Moorer has always been a strange fighter to me. He does not get really competitive until someone rings his bell. Moorer seems content in being outboxed until someone lands a good shot. If you can hurt Moorer, but you can't knock him out, look out. You have a serious fight on your hands. I really believe it took heavyweight power to ko Moorer, so his chin should be sturdy at 175.

    Moorer probably had the same major flaws in his style at light heavyweight as he did north of 200. I believe that Moorer's heavy feet leave him vulnerable to fighters that get him to take pursuit. I would make him the underdog against Tunney, Charles, or Maxim.

    I also would not pick Moorer to defeat Spinks, Moore, or Foster.

    I would give him a real chance against Qawi, Michalczewski, and Glen Johnson. Moorer is a very sharp and accurate puncher. I believe he could have Qawi, Michalczewski, or Johnson in serious trouble as they would try to apply pressure. Remember Moorer versus Bert Cooper? Now imagine he is facing a Cooper that may not be able to hurt him.
     
  13. Sweet Pea

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    Moorer was even less durable at 175 actually, due to his scrawny frame and problems with making weight, which drained him of his strength.

    He actually developed into a better technician at HW, but his durability was an issue there. I think Qawi would've out-clevered him into eating one of his viscious counters, if he didn't simply muscle Moorer's skinny frame around the ring.
     
  14. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I've heard Moorer complain about making that weight, and saying he felt stronger at heavyweight.

    I don't think that his durability or chin were ever questioned at 175. 14 of his 22 fights there never made it past the 2nd round, only 4 made it past the 5th, and none of his fights went the distance.
     
  15. Russell

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    Well said, and good points. Thank you.

    In terms of power, whether he had more raw power or just better delivery, he was far more succesful at heavyweight then Foster.

    Foster did... what against Ali and Frazier? Coming off a serious surgery and fat as hell Moorer wobbled Evander Holyfield in their second fight. You think Foster could of done the same considering his lack of success against the often questioned chin of Joe Frazier?