Would appreciate any thoughts on my all time lineal heavyweight list

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  1. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Really good justification for Sharkey, thank you for that. He really was not who I was expecting people to take exception to my rating of but it’s great you can put the info out there. I’m going to have to rewatch the Sharkey footage I can find.

    Thinking of it, Sharkey was the champ when my grandfather was born so I heard plenty of him talking about the poor quality that came before Joe Louis. I wonder if that’s coloured my opinion.
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I'd bet a million dollars that Rahman would beat Corbett :headbash
     
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    Plausible, but I wouldn't recommend betting a million dollars.
     
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    *Zimbabwe dollars
     
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    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't think it matters in this comparison.
     
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  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Holmes was ever lineal he was simply generally seen as the best for a period.

    Ali was no longer champ when he lost to Holmes so beating him doesn't make Holmes lineal.
     
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  7. Del Boy

    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    For me if, the lineal champion comes out of retirement before a new lineage has been established that the titles passes to the victor.

    If Hart and Burns ducked Johnson and refused to fight him, but Jeffries came out of retirement to lose to Johnson, wouldn’t you consider Johnson lineal champion?
     
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    Del Boy R.I.P Darren Sutherland Full Member

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    Rahman beat Lewis, Lewis ranks higher than Corbett, also head to head is completely irrelevant
     
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  9. Greb & Papke 707

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    Too many names, technically The only undisputed lineal champions were Corbett, Fitz, Jeffries, Johnson, Willard, Dempsey, And Tunney, Tunney retired the champ so nobody was the “man who beat the man” thus the “original linage” died with him
     
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  10. janitor

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    You could take that logic further, and say that Mace retired with the title, so there was only ever one lineal champion.
     
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  11. Tonto62

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    Sharkey,on a given night would have given Tunney all he wanted imo.
     
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    Greb & Papke 707 Active Member Full Member

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    Hahahahahaahhah, I didn’t even think about that
     
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  13. Raj_Patel

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    Why is JJ so high!?!?
     
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